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Old 08-15-2006, 05:37 AM
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First Turiel let me welcome you to DodgeBoard.

I do agree this whole debate is silly but then I think it has more to do with which side of the fence you stand.

Yes both are simply theories but both do have evidence to support those theories. The problem is one side refuses to except the others evidence.

Personally, my belief differs from either but let look at creationism from the more popular view. So we have this historical document, and yes the bible is a historical document like it or not, that says god created man. Because this particular claim has no evidence to back it up, nor disprove it, doesn't make the rest of the document false.

There are many other claims in the same document that have been scientifically shown to be fact. The great flood, for example, has been proved as an actual event. Not on the scale in the document, but on a scale that peoples of the time would have recorded it as such. Also many names referenced have been proved to be real as well as the events written.

You must remember that these two theories were written in completely different states of the human ability to understand it's surroundings. Some 2000 years ago lightning was thought to be the results of angry gods. Of course now we understand what causes lightning, but the fact remains that the reference to it, and what it did, is real. Many of the bibles writings have unbelievable explanations that science can now dispute, but, science has also proved most have are based on actual events and only their inability to explain them scientifically 2000 years ago makes them different.

Just as this document has made claims we now know as false so has the theory of evolution had it's own false claims. In my opinion both are nothing but theories and as such deserve equal attention by science. The real issue here is that the oldest theory and document has it's roots in religion and so the anti-religious have deemed it garbage and not appropriate for the science class.

I believe the real reason is they fear this theory.

Myself, I prefer the alien theory which is actually a combination of both popular theories. I believe life is far too complicated to be explained by the single cell in a mud pond theory. I believe life came to earth from elsewhere. Be it on the cosmic winds by chance or intended by a higher intelligence I couldn't say, but again, going back some 2000+ years, and with a limited ability to understand it's surroundings, It's not hard to understand where the god theory possibly came from. As such, one must evaluate the possibility that in that time of human thought the god theory could be valid. Perhaps they were aware of events in the beginning of man that we are not, and god was their way of relaying it.

Now about the "separation of Church and State" misconception. I am at a loss as to how this gets so easily spun to mean something obviously not what our founding fathers meant. Go back in time and remember why America came to be in the first place. Look at the very motto's written to represent what America stands for by the same signers of the constitution. Look at the public offices, especially the white house, and see all the religious references.

Now tell me, do you honestly believe our founding fathers meant "no religion in state."
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