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Old 11-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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The Right, as well as Americans, have fallen for a left wing slight-of-hand. As the Left hand dangled the war in Iraq in front of Americans as political bait, the right hand was busy drumming up the Latino vote.
You really need to get over this simpletonist left-right thingie. There was no sleight of hand by the democrats. This election was more a reflection of dis-satisfaction over the executive branch, which was not up for election but had basically hung it's rank and file support out to dry by it's arrogance and incompetence. The rank and file support compounded this by repeating some of the same mistakes from when the democrats controlled the house.

The democrats made gains in places that were historically conservative because they were able to come up with candidates that could run in the middle. North Carolina elected an anti-abortion, pro-gun democrat to be it's next Senator. So in the right-left context, the democrats were forced to moved to the right and the republicans find themselves further to the right. Surely some conservatives will like this. I personally think it will worsen for the republicans until they make it possible for folks to move back to the middle in that party.

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Shops were setup all around the country to make getting a drivers license easy for undocumented immigrants. With a drivers license they would then be eligible to vote and with a promise to stay in America, if elected, their victory was set
Got a source for this alledged massive voting fraud? You obviously don't have much faith in the voter registration process or the individual state's ability to spot a fake license even if this statement was remotely true.

Immigration is a major issue, more so in certain places than others but it's not going to be the downfall of the USA. We've always been a country of immigrants. Stupid policies by both parties have brought us to the mess we whave now, not some lame brain conspiracy theory that Mexico is out to take over the country. Being in Debt to Asian countries and marginallizing our ability to react to strategic threats is going to do us in much sooner.

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Polls show there was at least a 75% increase in the Latino vote.
Conviently forgetting the Latino vote historically leans republican?

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It is almost guaranteed the democrats first move, as keepers of the house, will be to pass a guest worker program..
You mean the one President GW Bush asked for?

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once Americans find out they've been deceived.
Sheesh, This change happened because the American People by and large, figured out they had been were still being decieved. The stories and tales had changed so often, even the George Will's of the world were taking notice.

Speaking of deception, I believe Georgie even mentioned Iraq and Oil in the same speaches last week?

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After all they must fulfill their promise to the voters that put them in control. Given time, and enough rope, democrats will hang themselves and the power will shit once again in 2008.
You're partially correct in that democrats will hang themselves eventually, power corrupts, and that is the only constant. But to look for it in 2008 is a fools dream but if it comforts you, so be it.

Even if the Democrats end up getting the Senate seats in Montana and Virginia, there are two independents where one is going to pretty much be a nutcase and Lieberman is going to go his conscience. That still leaves Cheney as the tie breaker. Unless Bush further alienates his remaining base or really screws up even more than he has now, there won't be an impeachment trial nor can the democrats do much with his court nominees.

The bigger questions are for now - Will the administration work more on consensus building and try to lead for a change? and Two-can the democratic house leadership actually move to the center and stay there?

It's one thing to be in the back seat as the car is careening towards the cliff, its' another to be given the steering wheel and brake control and to see if you gain control.

The Board of Directors made it clear they want balance again, only question is will we have it?
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