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Originally Posted by macdaddy  Jolly,
Point noted and accepted.
Highway,
No I don't believe that the business owners have voided your permit. Its a choice everyone makes. I think the bigger question here is.... when do the rights and libertys of one person cross over and infringe on the rights and liberties of another? Who has the the right to say you can't carry your weapon into a store if you feel your in danger? Who has the right to tell business owners they can't operate their businesses in the manner they feel the safest?
And did the founding fathers invision the constitution in a different manner than we are interpreting it today?
I don't know where the answer to those questions are. I like everyone else only has their opnion.
As far as the car break in goes your right but they do make lockboxes you can use for this purpose. In Car Gun Safe Auto Vault, Gun Safe, Laptop Safe, Hand Gun Safe, Gun Vault, Portable Safe, Laptop Briefcase, Safe Manufacturer,Security Briefcase |
Macdaddy,
That Auto Vault in the second link is really slick. When I’m on the road I like to carry plenty of cash but not keep all of it in my wallet. That vault would be great for extra cash.
But not for a gun.
Two reasons why. First someone with a CC permit has one for a reason. This is covered by my spare tire theory. You carry a spare in the trunk for years and never need it. One day you have some things to haul so you leave the spare in the garage for some extra room and bingo! The first flat in years and you ain’t got the spare. OK, apply that to your carry gun. You stop at someplace that’s posted so you lock the gun in the vault and then lock the car. If you suddenly need it 10 feet from the car it just as well be 10 miles.
A case that comes to mind happened in Colorado a couple years ago. There was an altercation in a parking lot over a car door dinging another car. (I don’t know who dinged who.) The guy with a CC was facing another couple and the other man picked up a pipe and smacked the guy with the CC up side the head. With both parties advancing on him he pulled his gun and killed the man with the pipe and wounded that man’s wife. It was ruled justifiable self defense because he had already been hit in the head with the pipe and that type of injury is potentially fatal. In front of a posted store he would likely have been beat to death within 10 feet of his weapon that was locked in the car.
Second reason is in the process of moving the weapon from the holster to the vault the weapon might be seen by a passer by. This defeats the whole purpose of CC. I’ve seen several opinion writers asking why you need a hidden gun when you could just carry openly. It’s because there’s always someone somewhere that going to overreact when they see a weapon.
A couple of years ago there was a man in Nebraska that carried openly all the time. It was legal and nothing happened because of it. One day he went into a Wal*Mart (still legally) and of course someone called the police. The man was detained and hassled for hours despite the fact he had broken no laws. Out of sight, no problem. In plain view, trouble. Compare that to another Wal*Mart somewhere else where a lady with a CC used her weapon to stop some crazy from cutting up a store employee with a blade. Without firing a shot.
Yes macdaddy that Auto Vault looks like a fine place to keep extra cash and even other things like credit cards or other valuables.
But not my gun.
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