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Old 03-17-2007, 07:33 AM
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I agree. I believe the translation is more like Thou shalt not murder. Kill being defensive and murder being offensive. I have a real problem with turning the other cheek.

My point is that people tend to pick a convenient time in history to support their claims. Fact is most of these "killers in the name of Christ" were killers before they found Christ. In fact in that time period just about everybody was killing each other in the name of something. Thats what they did, go out and conquer other lands.

Again using Clovis(sp) as an example, a Christian priest gave him a cross to protect him in an upcoming battle but he relied on his gods instead. On the verge of defeat he pulled out the cross and vowed that he would become a Christian if God would help him win the battle. The battle did turn around and Clovis defeated the enemy. He kept his word and converted to Christianity. Being the leader and now controller of a huge area he demanded that everyone convert to Christianity.

Clovis didn't need much reason to invade and kill innocent people before his conversion or after only now he had another reason. Anyone that wouldn't convert to Christianity would be killed. Fact is he would have killed them anyway but now he felt he was doing it to appease his new god.

Of course history writes him as another holy warrior when in fact he was just another merciless ruler out after personal gain.

Even one of the most infamous group of "holy warriors", the Templar's, have another side that history fails to point out.
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