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All I can say is I'm very glad my parents cared enough to whip my butt when necessary.
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I agree with you Detector, but how long ago was that? These days you can care all you want, and you know the right thing is a pop on the butt, but because everybody does not agree with that then you risk loosing your child to the system.
I think that is what is wrong with a lot of kids these days is that they need a pop or two daily if the need is there, but they too have been taught do what you want, nobody will touch you and if they do and you tell the right person, then you win. But what they do not get because they are kids is that the pop is for their own good, and instead they end up in the court system. Once in, it is hard to get out.