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Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman  See, I don't because most people are not disgusted. Most people are not unemployed, most people are not on welfare, most people who are on welfare are still on it and have not lost anything, most people are doing just fine. The independants, like me, are not that cut and dry. They understand that the president does not control everything. We understand that both parties have more in common than not. We also take things with a grain of salt and learn to read between the lines. |
Well Dutchie, I just don't see it through your eyes I guess. But that's okay. In November we will both know the answer to this all important issue and all this "talk" will really have turned out to mean nothing.
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Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman Only by the die hard Democrats. That is why I think it is a mistake to try and paint him with that brush. It is the independants and middle ground persons who elect the president. |
Again, I think we'll see in November what the "independants and middle ground persons" do.
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Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman As do I, but that was not the point in this thread. It was to point out how Dean is trying to stop the bleeding with his party. As for the war being "illegitimate", that is a far left thought. Most people may feel that the war is uneccasary (sic) but they do not feel it is an illegitimate one. Bush haters do though. If the Democrats wish to push that idea then they will alienate the middle ground. This is not about right and wrong, it is about common sense. The middle ground people voted Bush into office, twice. Now, if the democrats keep beating the drum about Bush being dumb, evil, stupid and wrong about going to war then they basically are calling those who voted for him the same. People do not like to be called stupid, even if they are. It is a bad strategy.
I am not trying to attack you or your views and opinions. I am, and was, merely trying to point out the situation with Dean and the spot the party he is the leader of is in. As an independant I am trying to show how things appear to someone who is not biased because of any party affiliation. |
While I think that the whole "Dean thing", for all it's intrique and scandal, is probably playing pretty good to about a half a dozen "policy wonks" on the Dodge Board, I don't see it gaining much traction outside here. Probably only holds the interest of a certain few. You know, those of "far right thought". Again, we'll know in November who's strategery is working.
As an aside, I didn't take your astute political analysis as an attack. I read it for what it was. Have a nice day!