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Old 04-04-2008, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman View Post
So, tell me 88, is it Bush or is it war that you are against? Is it the mistrust of the government or mistrust of THIS government? Are you going to call Bill Self and tell him he needs to let Roy know every single aspect of his game plan? He needs to let every fan know exactly what, when, where, why and how he intends to play the game? If KU falls behind by 12 points, is he supposed to tell Roy ahead of time that he will throw in the towel?
Well Dutchie let's put it this way. I am against Bush taking us into this war. Mssrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al have never laid out a good reason for entering into this morass, much less explained any type of measurable goals we are trying to attain. Indeed, it appears to this casual observer that the reasons for going to war changed like the days of the week. WMD, terrorists, oppression, etc. With that said, I suppose one could concur that if you don't know why you started something, you'll have a hard time knowing when you're finished. Now if this type of "leadership" appeals to you and your sensibilities, then by all means throw your support to the lying SOB. I smell a rat and I'm gonna say so.

Regarding my trust in "the government" or "THIS government", I've always maintained a certain amount of skepticism when it comes to officialdom. Having "leaders" like those listed above, only adds to my aforementioned distrust. Guess I'm kind of funny that way.

Now while your analogy to Bill Self and the upcoming game with North Carolina probably makes perfect sense to you, I frankly am having a hard time following it based on how it relates to my previous posts. I do know this, if I were to get a chance to call Bill Self, I think I'd tell him to double down on Hansbrough when he catches the ball down low and hope we can draw some fouls when he starts flailing those arms like he does. After two quick fouls, he'll likely start kicking it out to the guards for the shot and I think we can then hold their shooting percentage below 40%. That happens and we'll advance while Roy heads home.

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4000 dead in armed conflict over the last 5 years. Every life is valuable and every death an attrocity. Over 3000 killed in one day by 4 airplanes. No fighting, no defending themselves, no mercy shown to them by the enemy that swore to kill them.
The number of dead is indeed a tragedy. The 3000+ were killed by airplanes flown by Saudis mostly, not Iraqis. When are we gonna invade Saudi Arabia?

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Somebody posted there is no winning this war. Maybe not, but there is a way to lose it. Our government lies, our media lies, none of us know the truth because it is formed on our opinions. I am not niave enough to think that our government is not hypocritical. The difference is that to me the enemy is just that, the enemy. I could care less about the Crusades, the Romans, the Greeks, the Persians or any other form of conflict that the middle east ahs had to face over the last few thousand years. I care about today and tomarrow. If AQ, or whatever group of fugnuts want to keep sending warm bodies into the conflict, then I am more than happy for our troops to keep Allah supplied with twisted souls. Yes, there needs to be a better plan and there needs to be some sort of exit strategy, but I do not need to know what it is because I truly believe that our country is the better one and our ideals and morals are the better ones.
I am inclined to agree that there is probably no winning this war. Hell, no one has been able to explain to me just how we will know it is "won".

I also understand your apathy regarding "Crusades, Romans, Greeks, Persians or any other conflict.......", I also understand the old axiom: Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.

In the final analysis, I agree with your sentiments regarding the greatness of our country. We probably just disagree on what makes it great.
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