Casino "Facts" ? There are none.

[sunny beach]

I don't have a problem with them being listed. I just don't see the relevance to listing the CFAB when we are talking about Boot Hill Gaming and the casino. The CFAB has and will have NO say in what Boot Hill Gaming/casino does.

[lurker]

The best-est place to build both projects is that piece of farmland immediately south of the former marchell ranch.

Easy access from the NW bypass, close to the municipal golf course, there's a walmart nearby, the motels are very close... but far enough away to capture the 'high rollers' into the center's motel.

Oh, the cemetaries are nearby so those who don't really need to go home will have that choice, too.

Board of Directors.
9/30/2006
Please note, some people could [could ????] have a conflict of Interest.

Boot Hill Gaming Board
“For Profit Corporation,” According to the filing made in The Kansas Secretary Of State Office.

Jeff Thorpe, President (Fidelity Bank)
Ed.Brancart, Secretary (Ford County Attorney)
Kent Smoll, Treasure (Dodge City Commissioner)

Kim Goodnight, (Ford County Commissioner)
Dan Harris, (Fidelity Bank)
Scott Chipman, (Fidelity Bank)
Greg Starks, (Coldwell Banker) Chairman, CFAB
Jim Coffin, (JAG Construction Co.)
Joe Bogner, (Western Beverage) Severed on 1st. FAB Board



Gee, when the money for the Event Center is used for the parking lot next to the casino, will that count as using tax money? When the location of both is brokered by a board member of both, will that count as conflict ? And the Ford County Attorney being on a gambling board -- hmmm, when is the next election ? Wonder which member of the public majority of Dodge City (ie, yes, representing the Hispanic community) will be on the board of any of this ? Time to say -- No Thanks. Given how this same group (basically) has managed other facilities (ie., Boot Hill, building Events Center ), let that be the decision maker on your vote. (And I would think later it should be a legal issue whether any of the elected/appointed officials can vote at all on the Events Center issues -- IF it is going to be a major portion of their casino -- and I wonder how many of the list already have shares of Butler ? ).

[sunny beach]

The Special Event Center has nothing to do with the casino. Don't take your confusion and try to push it onto everybody else!

"It is a model of public-private partnership in the development of a destination
casino/convention complex. The local voter approved a $30 Million convention/special
event center – a natural companion to a destination Casino complex and the private
development of Hotel facilities. Gaming compliments the investment platform Dodge City
and Ford County citizens have already made in their community and our objective to be
the center of regional entertainment facilities. Our convention capacity is planned to
increase from less than 200 to 1,000. In addition, we have two new hotels under
construction now."

Has Nothing to Do with the Casino ? Please read more. Thanks.

[sunny beach]

You are the one not reading. They would like to build the casino near the Special Event Center because they feel it would be a natural fit to work closely with each other. But, the casino is not dependent on being built near the Special Event Center.

There has been discussion that a Special Event Center, funded by Why Not Dodge sales tax revenues, could be located adjacent to the destination casino complex. This would represent use of tax-dollars, however that project would be independent from the destination casino enterprise.
The destination casino is not dependent upon having the Special Event Center, however BHG believes the Center may be more successful because of its correlation with the casino complex.

source of quote - http://www.butlernational.com/Testimony.pdf

Originally Posted by sunny beach

You are the one not reading. They would like to build the casino near the Special Event Center because they feel it would be a natural fit to work closely with each other. But, the casino is not dependent on being built near the Special Event Center.

source of quote - http://www.butlernational.com/Testimony.pdf

I would say it is the other way around -- that the Events center is not dependent on the casino. Let's remember, the events center has been approved, and funded.

The casino -- your quote is from Butler, a company that MAY be chosen by the gambling group, Boot Hill Casino Inc. that MAY be chosen by the state, IF we approve the Casino ... etc....) -- my quote is from Boot Hill Gaming Inc. so back to the point -- how about all those CFAB board members and city/county commissioners being on Boot Hill Gaming Inc. board, etc. -- huh? We'll see what the vote is Tuesday and then follow the money. Any, ah, bets ?

[Detector]

No operator chosen -- no guarantee that it is the local group that wants it

No location chosen

No design to review

No actual $ dollar numbers (since revenue is unknown) -- and no cost statements about what local police, et al , will need to increase budgets

No actual dollar amounts stated to go to either city or country -- depends on whether it is built in the city or not, for example

No enforceable payments to help the area's other tourism in any way

What do any of these have to do with the vote the 26th? One thing at a time.

[deuce91]

If the casino passes (yes, I hope it does!), it's not a done deal that Butler OR Boot Hill Gaming will get the contract with the state to operate the casino. This vote is for allowing the state to place a casino within Ford County. We residents are voting in confidence of the state of Kansas. It's that simple. The rest of it, placement, who will operate, etc. will be set by the Kansas Lottery Commission. I've heard rumors in the wind that the indian tribes are very interested in operating these new casinos across the state. One of the tribes could very easily outbid Boothill Gaming and take hold of the casino license.

If that were to happen, they could potentially build it anywhere in Ford County they see fit. Half way to Minneola, Spearville, Bucklin (along US 54). The voters are getting confused, and it's a shame. The reason there isn't more information is there isn't any to give.

What really hacks me off are when the residents vote for something and then want to dictate exactly what will happen. I don't remember the average citizen deciding where the DCRP went. Or where Legends went. Or where Wal-Mart when looking to build the new dumphole they call a Supercenter, a private company like the casino developer, went. (Really, if we wanted to start cleaning up the town, how about starting with the inside of that store and the litter in the fields surrounding it!) That company, or the city, bought the land and developed their buildings and such in the way that best suited them. Shouldn't it be the same with all private enterprises?

I could be all wet here, but we are trying to run 10 miles without taking the first step. If you want a casino in Ford County, anywhere mind you, vote for it. If you don't want a casino located in Ford County, then vote no. Just remember, this isn't a vote for or against Boothill Gaming. This vote is with the state lottery.

"What really hacks me off are when the residents vote for something and then want to dictate exactly what will happen. I don't remember the average citizen deciding where the DCRP went. Or where Legends went. ..."

Gee -- in the case of the public projects, the elected officials decided for us. In the case of the casino, no elected officials will be deciding anything.

Big difference having a plan, a design, a cost, etc. for the Why Not Dodge ? vote -- and voting on just yes or no for a casino without any details at all.

(of course, the details -- ie, dirt track -- do tend to change, I will grant -- )

And of course, for some having elected officials both financially involved privately and deciding publically how to benefit their private company is -- maybe illegal ? Just a guess...........