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Old 06-24-2007, 01:01 PM
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Casino "Facts" ? There are none.

Whether you are voting for or against having a casino, there are NO facts to back up your decision:

No operator chosen -- no guarantee that it is the local group that wants it

No location chosen

No design to review

No actual $ dollar numbers (since revenue is unknown) -- and no cost statements about what local police, et al , will need to increase budgets

No actual dollar amounts stated to go to either city or country -- depends on whether it is built in the city or not, for example

No enforceable payments to help the area's other tourism in any way

And national casino expert states that the money will mostly be from the local economy, not from region.

Let's just state that there are no facts to vote on. And let's also state that the signs should be in Engish and Spanish. In fact, mostly Spanish, given the local population percentages.

One fact, I guess, is that money will be made by someone. And costs will be paid by us.
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:38 PM
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I think those are good points.
Why cant someone tell us where it is going to be for sure? Why cant somone say what it is going to look like or WHO is going to build it? I would love to hear answeres to those questions before we vote YES or NO.
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Wait for it...

I am sure you will have your shot at voting for all the above.. especially if we take the same route the SEC did...
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:35 PM
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I think those are good points.
Why cant someone tell us where it is going to be for sure? Why cant somone say what it is going to look like or WHO is going to build it? I would love to hear answeres to those questions before we vote YES or NO.
Let me ask you if you would spend your money to buy land to build something and commit to that location if you knew that you might not be allowed to build it? If you use a little common sense, you would realize that a definite location can't be committed to until a final vote is approved and they have the authorization to build it. Then they will purchase the land and the permits to build it in a definite location. They have, however, given you an answer, in general, on the FAQ section of the website.

As far as what it's going to look like....they have given you a general idea of what it will look like on the website. Just click on the link that says "Similar Destination Casino in Iowa." There are 40 pictures to give you an idea of the vision that they have for the casino to be built here if/when it passes.
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I am sure you will have your shot at voting for all the above.. especially if we take the same route the SEC did...
No vote will be taken on who will build it or where it will be. It is a private company that will build it without any tax monies so the voters will have no say on any of those items.
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Will this be the Private Company?


Board of Directors.
9/30/2006
Please note, some people could have a conflict of Interest.

Boot Hill Gaming Board
“For Profit Corporation,” According to the filing made in The Kansas Secretary Of State Office.

Jeff Thorpe, President (Fidelity Bank)
Ed.Brancart, Secretary (Ford County Attorney)
Kent Smoll, Treasure (Dodge City Commissioner)

Kim Goodnight, (Ford County Commissioner)
Dan Harris, (Fidelity Bank)
Scott Chipman, (Fidelity Bank)
Greg Starks, (Coldwell Banker) Chairman, CFAB
Jim Coffin, (JAG Construction Co.)
Joe Bogner, (Western Beverage) Severed on 1st. FAB Board

Boot Hill Museum,Inc. Members.

Jeff Thorpe, (Fidelity Bank)
Dan Harris, (Fidelity Bank)
Kim Goodnight, (Ford County Commissioner)
Glen Kerbs, (Ford County Counselor)
Dean Bush, (Ford County Sheriff)
George Hendrichs, (Ex. Manager, Boot Hill)
Jim Sherer, (Ex. Manager, Boot Hill) (Dodge City Commissioner)
Gayle Ausmus, (Member)
Kerri Baker, (Member)
Ryan Carpenter, (Member)
Charles Couch, (Member)
Pat Hamit, (Member)
Beth Rhoten, (Member)
Jan Stevens, (ex-officio)
Ken Winters, (Member)

Community Facilities Advisory Board
Greg Starks, (Chairman), Boot Hill Gaming.
Rick Sowers, (City Commissioner)
Terry Williams, (County Commissioner)
Jeff Pederson, (City Manager)
Ed. Elam, (County Administrator)
Lance Nichols (Member)
Pat Shrader, (Member)
Ann Torrey, (Member)

Justin Baning, Husband of Carolyn Baning, Partner in Smoll-Baning,
Member Appointee (DC/FC Econ.Dev.)
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Welperz, they all look like fine upstanding folks.

No CONflicts.

All of 'um supported by the little guy.....
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Will this be the Private Company?


Board of Directors.
9/30/2006
Please note, some people could have a conflict of Interest.

Boot Hill Gaming Board
“For Profit Corporation,” According to the filing made in The Kansas Secretary Of State Office.

Jeff Thorpe, President (Fidelity Bank)
Ed.Brancart, Secretary (Ford County Attorney)
Kent Smoll, Treasure (Dodge City Commissioner)

Kim Goodnight, (Ford County Commissioner)
Dan Harris, (Fidelity Bank)
Scott Chipman, (Fidelity Bank)
Greg Starks, (Coldwell Banker) Chairman, CFAB
Jim Coffin, (JAG Construction Co.)
Joe Bogner, (Western Beverage) Severed on 1st. FAB Board

Boot Hill Museum,Inc. Members.

Jeff Thorpe, (Fidelity Bank)
Dan Harris, (Fidelity Bank)
Kim Goodnight, (Ford County Commissioner)
Glen Kerbs, (Ford County Counselor)
Dean Bush, (Ford County Sheriff)
George Hendrichs, (Ex. Manager, Boot Hill)
Jim Sherer, (Ex. Manager, Boot Hill) (Dodge City Commissioner)
Gayle Ausmus, (Member)
Kerri Baker, (Member)
Ryan Carpenter, (Member)
Charles Couch, (Member)
Pat Hamit, (Member)
Beth Rhoten, (Member)
Jan Stevens, (ex-officio)
Ken Winters, (Member)

Community Facilities Advisory Board
Greg Starks, (Chairman), Boot Hill Gaming.
Rick Sowers, (City Commissioner)
Terry Williams, (County Commissioner)
Jeff Pederson, (City Manager)
Ed. Elam, (County Administrator)
Lance Nichols (Member)
Pat Shrader, (Member)
Ann Torrey, (Member)

Justin Baning, Husband of Carolyn Baning, Partner in Smoll-Baning,
Member Appointee (DC/FC Econ.Dev.)

Where did you find this info? I would like to take a look at the source.

Many companies have a Board of Directors that have no experience in the business that they sit on the Board for. They do, however, have business experience and quite often other Board experience. Sometimes they even serve on the Board of Directors of several companies at the same time.

I also fail to see why you felt it was necessary to list the CFAB. It will have nothing to do with Boot Hill Gaming. The purpose of the CFAB is to give guidance and recommendations on how the Why Not Dodge tax money is spent. Since the casino is not using public funds the CFAB will have nothing to do with or have any say in the business of the casino.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:07 PM
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I sea no problem with listing all of those publick fig-urines...

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Since the casino is not using public funds the CFAB will have nothing to do with or have any say in the business of the casino.
I think they won't even be in the same part of town..... cough, cough
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