Why active soldiers don't speak out against war

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

Outdated report..

Well yesterday is in the past but not as much in the past as the first two weeks of August are.

Originally Posted by Highwayman

He’s being “attacked” as you call it because he made false statements, not because he wrote something that some folks didn’t like. If you actually did your homework you would know that much of what he wrote wasn’t passing the smell test and that’s why it was checked out. .

Oh, are you embedded over there? I'm not. The Weekly Standard isn't, nor is the New Republic. The only points I made were:

1. That the Weekly Standards's reporting was wishful thinking in the author had recanted.' .

2. As the original poster intended, any US soldier writing anything other than "we're doing the right thing here" is subject to various forms of attack. The messenger is attacked just as violently as the message.

That there was(is) an investigation and that the Army publicly denies the actions happened should be surprising to no one. But using the Bassett's term of bs, this army has passed enough of it out that one would wonder if they would admit whatever he wrote about had a basis in fact

Originally Posted by Highwayman

It is over the press wires. Just because you haven’t noticed doesn’t make it not so.

Show me where I said whatever Beauchamp wrote was true. All I have said is it has not been proven to be false. Some want to believe it is false but that is different from being false. As far as I am concerned it's just as wrong for the TNR to accept confirmation from five annonymous sources prior to printing as it is for them to poo-poo other annonymous sources that are cited in the others trying to prove it false. TNR got burned once before for shoddy verification and if they get burned again, it's their own damn fault.

Originally Posted by Highwayman

I think Maj. Lamb is close enough to an official.

I think Maj Lamb would be joining Pvt. Beauchamp on whatever punishment they heap on him should Maj Lamb differeniate from his script.

Originally Posted by Highwayman

The greater point is that it wasn’t disclosed until TNR was forced to disclose it after the fact.

They weren't forced to disclose it, they chose to disclose it.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Outofdodge

Oh, are you embedded over there?...

No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once.

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once.

Me too, but the shower head and cinnamon rolls on the breakfast bar don't make up for the thread bare sandpaper towells and mattresses made with plywood. It's the Hampton Inn and Fairfield Inn for me.

[jeezeweeze]

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[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

Here is a site to explore if your interested.



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Yeah, they fight over there too.

"Yes, they're anonymous, but they're real. Do you people really believe that TNR really is gonna put its ass on the line for a guy whose lying and that they're gonna help cover up his lies by making stuff up? Of course now that this has turned into such a ridiculous (and manufactured) tempest in a teapot, what soldier is gonna come out and attach his name to something when he's obviously gonna have to deal with the heavy duty bullshit that will come streaming down the chain of command on his ass?"

Yeah-TNR will put his ass on the line for a lier-they've done it before.

"This is such a political witch hunt. Beauchamp has been filing stories from Iraq for a while. As long as they agree with his stories' politics, publications like the Weekly Standard were cheerleaders for this guy. As soon as the truth showed something different, they attacked him. Vilely."

Dude, check out the news now-he lied. He's recanted

Posted by: max at August 7, 2007 12:01 AM


Clearly, on this one, I had it totally wrong. He lied. I believed him. I was wrong. TNR was wrong (though I still believe they believed him as I did and didn't knowingly lie, just as I don't think they knew glass was lying at the time and addressed it when it came out).

Posted by: Jason at August 7, 2007 07:28 PM

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