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Old 09-21-2007, 06:45 AM
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AMEN! Yet in today's world we cont to force God and religion (the building blocks of our government) out of every facet of every person's life.

??could this be what is wrong with the world today??
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between fundamentalist in Islam and Christian
seems to me that religion and religious beliefs are the problem.
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AMEN! Yet in today's world we cont to force God and religion (the building blocks of our government) out of every facet of every person's life.

??could this be what is wrong with the world today??
Religion is NOT being forced out of anyone's life that I know of. In this country you have the right to go to Church and worship EACH and EVERY day. Last time I checked that was a freedom that has not been taken away or taxed. The fact is that people TRY TO FORCE religion in facets of our live's where it does NOT belong. Religion for example does NOT belong in a public school nor does it belong in public city, county or state buildings. If you cater to ONE religion you should cater to all, not just the majority. That's all good now for Christians but one day that may NOT be the majority Religion...then what? Are you going to petition for the Koran to be placed in school libraries? I highly doubt it.
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It has no place in this discussion I know, but I saw a cool T-Shirt yesterday:

Jesus loves you...

...but everyone else thinks you are an a$$hole!
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And of course Honk if you Love ...
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I love how people can totally ignore the obvious in pursuit of their own wants. Obviously our founding fathers were god fearing religious people. The concept of separation of church and state has been distorted from its original intent.

Why do you suppose, until recently, our schools and state meetings started with a prayer? Our founding fathers that created this "separation of church and state" had no problem with religion in the capital or schools.
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I love how people can totally ignore the obvious in pursuit of their own wants. Obviously our founding fathers were god fearing religious people. The concept of separation of church and state has been distorted from its original intent.

Why do you suppose, until recently, our schools and state meetings started with a prayer? Our founding fathers that created this "separation of church and state" had no problem with religion in the capital or schools.
Au Contare` my friend....quite a few of the founding fathers were not as holy as we have been lead to believe. They were more into freemasonry than Christianity.

"Of course many Americans did practice Christianity, but so also did many believe in deistic philosophy. Indeed, most of our influential Founding Fathers, although they respected the rights of other religionists, held to deism and Freemasonry tenets rather than to Christianity."

Jefferson, Adams, Paine, Madison, Franklin were all free thinkers. (meaning not really Christians as it's hard for a Christian to have any "free" thought)


Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians

The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity

The Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians or Secular Humanists: a Refutation of Steven Morris
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I said nothing about being Christians only people of religion.

Again, prayer not practiced in state is new, not something support by our founding fathers.
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True...you did say that....
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