City Commissioner Poll

[Made in the USA]

I agree Kap'n!!!

[Lone Gunman]

Originally Posted by Captain Kemical

That is the beauty of building the special event center, YOU DON"T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT! The sales tax pays for it, if you don't want to pay for it you have the choice to shop outside of Ford county, then you don't have to pay for it. Also, if the illegals are already here they are buying things locally, more than likely, and by doing that they are paying for it to. At least we are getting something for them being here illegally.

Another thing, if the negative people get their way and get rid of the sales tax, I guarantee that your property taxes will go up to pay for the maintenance and upkeep of the existing facilities we already have.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by Captain Kemical

Also, Kimminau & Boettcher are .....

I can assure you that upkeep and maintenance on a water park would be a hell of a lot more on a water park than on a SEC..... banghead

OK. How much more? A general amount will suffice.

[Captain Kemical]

$332,276.87. That is figuring the salaries of the staff to maintain it, the chemicals to keep the water clean, the pumps to circulate the water, the filtration system, the electricity to run everything, etc.






PS. If Kimminau and Boettcher can pull numbers out of thin air for their advertising I figured I can do a good job at it too.

[Demon '84]

Originally Posted by lurker

OK. How much more? A general amount will suffice.

How about a quote directly from the "Aquatic Master Plan for Dodge City Kansas", prepared by Waters Edge Aquatic Design, December 2005...

"Based on our experience with pool planning, we developed an expense projection of $450,000 for your proposed outdoor pool." That is for three months operation... it's closed nine out of 12 months.

"We project the annual operation costs for the proposed indoor pool facilities to be between $350,000 and $400,000."

So, around $800,000 to $850,000 per year, with the biggest part of the project closed for nine months of the year.

Oh, by the way, operational expenses of the Event Center are estimated to be $450,000 to $500,000 per year... and open year-round!

This information is available at City Hall (that's where I got it)... JUST ASK.

[pootsy]

[quote=Demon '84]So, I think we're getting the the core of your problem... It's not the Event Center, it's the Hispanics, legal or otherwise.


Demon It's not hispanics in general, it's illegal immigrants that take away from legal people. I believe that we have alot of problems here in DC, and before we build anything or try to remodel this town, we need to get rid of some crap that got us in this mess. What I mean by mess is the fact that people don't want to come here anymore. Why don't they want to come here??? Have you taken a good look at this place lately? It's not very pretty here. It stinks like cow blood, and shit, and it's full of drugs. We have problems people and we need to deal with them. A SEC isn't going to solve our problems.

I am sorry, this is just how I feel.

[Demon '84]

Originally Posted by pootsy

Demon It's not hispanics in general, it's illegal immigrants that take away from legal people. I believe that we have alot of problems here in DC, and before we build anything or try to remodel this town, we need to get rid of some crap that got us in this mess. What I mean by mess is the fact that people don't want to come here anymore. Why don't they want to come here??? Have you taken a good look at this place lately? It's not very pretty here. It stinks like cow blood, and shit, and it's full of drugs. We have problems people and we need to deal with them. A SEC isn't going to solve our problems.

I am sorry, this is just how I feel.

Nothing to be sorry about.

If this is how you feel, (I think a lot of people do), how can you support Kimminau and Boettcher? Kimminau has supported every tax break for the packing plants that has come along, and Boettcher WORKS at one of the the plants... where do you think HIS loyalty will be?

Once again, tax breaks for the packing plants and hotel corporations, and property tax increases for everyone else... THAT is Kimminau's record, and you can be sure Boettcher would do the same.

[lurker]

$ .500,000 SEC
$ .850,000 H2O
$1,350,000

$3,698.63 EACH AND EVERY DAY, JUST FOR those OPERATING EXPENSES.....

Plus the existing Civic Center's costs.
Plus the existing DCRP's costs.
Plus the existing Ball Park's costs.
Plus supporting the Golf Course' costs.
Plus supporting Boot Hill.
Plus supporting RoundUP.

Damn, I'm only having fun dodging cracks and dips in the roads....

[Demon '84]

Originally Posted by lurker

$ .500,000 SEC
$ .850,000 H2O
$1,350,000

$3,698.63 EACH AND EVERY DAY, JUST FOR those OPERATING EXPENSES.....

Hey everybody, Lurker has a calculator!

You seem to have a talent for missing the point.

A water park is NOT part of the Why Not Dodge projects. A Special Events Center is. Kimminau and Boettcher have both said they would stop the Events Center, but support a water park.

Second, The golf course, Boot Hill, and Round Up aren't WND projects either. Why don't you just throw in police and fire protection.

Look, it's fine to have an opinion, but when you don't know the facts (or just don't want to acknowledge them), it doesn't carry much weight.

If you come up with some factual information that supports your opinion, I'd love to see it. In the meantime, I'll continue to conclude that your opinion is based on ignorance.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by Demon '84

Hey everybody, Lurker has a calculator!

You seem to have a talent for missing the point.

A water park is NOT part of the Why Not Dodge projects. A Special Events Center is. Kimminau and Boettcher have both said they would stop the Events Center, but support a water park.

Second, The golf course, Boot Hill, and Round Up aren't WND projects either. Why don't you just throw in police and fire protection.

Look, it's fine to have an opinion, but when you don't know the facts (or just don't want to acknowledge them), it doesn't carry much weight.

If you come up with some factual information that supports your opinion, I'd love to see it. In the meantime, I'll continue to conclude that your opinion is based on ignorance.

OK. That's fine with me.