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NoLongerInRadioGuy · #41 (**permalink**) 06-17-2006, 03:12 PM

Kinda like my post eluded to...I have pulled over people for speeding in that construction zone. The way I look at it, and this is my personal ethics, anything from 28-31 mph in that zone gets you my overhead lights flashed at ya as a warning. 32mph and up will get ya pulled over and a ticket unless you have a really good reason for the speed. But, I dont go haulin balls to catch up with someone - if I cant turn around safely or pull into traffic safely, then oh well, another will be along in a few minutes. As an ex-field trainer, I would train my new guys to be aware of their surroundings when they pull someone over - if it is not safe to do, then wait before hitting the overheads to stop someone until they can pull over, out of the way of others. This is me and my training...not all do it the same way. If you do have a problem with a particular officer then by all means, let admin at the PD know about it - the last thing I want is my chosen profession with my chosen department to look bad in the public's eye. Blame the person, not the group.

As far as watching videos, I doubt they would let you. However, if you reported the incident, the video will more than likely be reviewed by the admin. Now if you were a defendant in a case, and there was a video tape, your lawyer could subpoena it.

lurker · #42 (**permalink**) 06-17-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLongerInRadioGuy

Kinda like my post eluded to...I have pulled over people for speeding in that construction zone. The way I look at it, and this is my personal ethics, anything from 28-31 mph in that zone gets you my overhead lights flashed at ya as a warning. 32mph and up will get ya pulled over and a ticket unless you have a really good reason for the speed. But, I dont go haulin balls to catch up with someone - if I cant turn around safely or pull into traffic safely, then oh well, another will be along in a few minutes. As an ex-field trainer, I would train my new guys to be aware of their surroundings when they pull someone over - if it is not safe to do, then wait before hitting the overheads to stop someone until they can pull over, out of the way of others. This is me and my training...not all do it the same way.

If you do have a problem with a particular officer then by all means, let admin at the PD know about it - the last thing I want is my chosen profession with my chosen department to look bad in the public's eye. Blame the person, not the group.

As far as watching videos, I doubt they would let you. However, if you reported the incident, the video will more than likely be reviewed by the admin. Now if you were a defendant in a case, and there was a video tape, your lawyer could subpoena it.

Radio, Good for you for having maturity and descretion.

I don't have a clue about the officer(s) or the name(s) and this is not a personal issue. I don't even know any active officers.

I won't venture into the PD without concrete proof and the only source would be the car's videos. It's too bad that any Dodge City resident can't get a viewing of the tapes.... Especially since they are the property of the public, taken on public property with publicly owned equipment by publicly paid employees with the justification of protecting the public.

If you have the pull and want to do your own viewing, then I simply ask you to view videos taken last Monday at about 8:30 am. The b&w left the parking lot and 180'd onto Earp heading east and took the offender between McD's parking lot and 4th. Street. I will bet one whole US Dollar that the b&w was running 38 mph across 7th. street. Friday's Silver Spur takedown occured at approximately 11:40 am. White pu & trailer.

TexKan · #43 (**permalink**) 06-18-2006, 12:12 AM

Most anything is covered under the freedom of information act. All ya gotta do is be willing to pay the PD's labor of obtaining the information for you. PD's are not always willing to just hand stuff over - there are proceedures to follow. Check out the info act - I know it covers emails. You don't have to say why you want the info - but you do need to go about it the right way. If you run into obsticales the Ks Att. General will help ya out.

lurker · #44 (**permalink**) 06-18-2006, 06:39 AM

OK... Freedom of Information Act, subpoenas, labor charges AND prolly a few bucks to a Lawyer. What else do I need?

Highwayman · #45 (**permalink**) 06-18-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lurker

.... What else do I need?

Probably more bucks. Lots of bucks. And a couple of years.

TexKan · #46 (**permalink**) 06-18-2006, 01:17 PM

I believe they have 15 days to respond to your request. They charge for the manpower time - and the supplies used. Course often if ya just go ask they will show ya what ya want. I would do appt with the chief - then if no satisfaction - make the open records request. If it's ungodly high - ask the att general to evaluate the cost. My DIL made an open records reqest - chage was $87 for emails of 15 folks. She then dropped the request - then my son did the same request - got an estimate of $3000. Texas Att General haas jumped all over it and now the PD is scramblin. There is a prodeedure to follow. It works if you are patient. The info ain't goin nowhere - it will still be there when you finally get it.

I'm not sure if videos are covered but bet they are. If it's just a citizen complaint (which I think this is) - you might be amazed at the action you get when the chief knows what the problem is. If you don't tell em - you haven't given them a chance. Ususally they are more concerned about the "perception" that citizens have than you might realize. OR ya might really have a crummy chief - but ya have to approach it optimistacally to get anywhere. You need to decide if it's important enough to you to actually follow the process. Kinda reminds me of the imigration bitchin by the non legals. Always in a hurry - wantin to circumvent the system. Follow the system and see if that helps ya! Open records doesn't need an attorney - just a letter requesting exact info you want. Your state Att Gen will be your attorney if ya need it.