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View Poll Results: Should the City of Dodge City pass it's own Concealed Carry Laws?
Yes 9 19.57%
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:49 PM
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You can't have it both ways

Just remember...If a business owner displays the NO GUN sign, then that business owner cannot have a concealed weapon either.

By posting the sign, that invokes K.S.A. 75-7c11 Which clearly states that concealed firearms are forbidden on the premises by state law for everyone, not just the customer. Employees too.

No where are customers and business owners defined seperately or regulated in a different manner.

I guess what I am saying is..."If you post the no-gun sign as a proprietor, you better not have a gun hidden behind the counter" or else you may be breaking state law.
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:12 PM
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Reciprocity

What pisses me off is the whole "reciprocate" policy.

States who honor other states CCH were supposed to get the same in return.

Kansas honors a bunch of states that do not honor Kansas' CCH.

Nevada, Nebraska, New Jersey and Hawaii, just to name a few.

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A friend of mine who is a Marine (ret) has a way of telling any business that displays the "Weapon Free" sign what wimps they are. He does in a no holds type of verbage. I know he has an idea here.
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come on your going to have to do better than that to scare me.

You choose to take your business wherever the hell you want! BIG DEAL! Doesn't everybody choose to take their business where they want to? The scare tactics of those that are proponents of CCH are exactly that, scare tactics, fostered by groups such as NRA. I am a gun owner because I choose to be. I don’t carry for the same reason. I choose not to. The point is it is a choice. This is my choice and everyone else’s choice to make. Just like the business owner who posts the NO CONCEALED FIREARMS ALLOWED, is allowed to do. If you don’t like it go somewhere where everyone is packing and has to compare their “size of their gun” over a cold bear and a cigarette.

Reminds me of the movie Full Metal Jacket. This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.

I have been on this earth a good long time, traveled extensively and have never been in the situation where I thought a gun was necessary for my protection. Maybe people should display a little more common sense and a little less testosterone.

To each their own.

I expected and still do that you or another fanatic will start ranting in big bold capitalized letters about your civil liberties. Please don't disappoint me.

My opinion stays unchanged.
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....I have been on this earth a good long time, traveled extensively and have never been in the situation where I thought a gun was necessary for my protection.....
We all hope your good fortune continues. I haven’t been so lucky.
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legal or not I always carried one when I was in Dodge.
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I respect everyone's right to their opinion and their right to express that opinion. Same goes for a person to be able to choose where to take their business.

If I had a choice of two places that offer similar services and one has the "no gun" sign and the other does not, I will use the place that is more acceptable of my position (P.S. Not all CCH people are "gun nut idiots").

I too have been around for quite some time and have "traveled extensively", only my travels have not been to just tourist traps and trendy safe places. I have had to travel to places and areas that I would have felt a whole lot more comfortable had I been able to carry at the time.

As had been said earlier, common sense can help, but sometimes that can take you only so far. When things get bad and it comes to getting hurt or giving it I'll take the giving side.

My opinion also stays unchanged!
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macdaddy

I've experienced one home invasion and three burglaries in my life, all in Dodge and all within the last 5 years.

I only wish my sister that was viciously raped and beaten last year here in Dodge while out jogging was as lucky as you, macdaddy.

I wish that my close female friend was as lucky as you and had not been beaten and raped and front of her 2 children a few years back.

I can only wonder how things would have been had they been able to protect themselves.

How many times does it take? There comes a time when you are foolish not to protect yourself.

Still, I am happy that you have been so fortunate. I am fairly sure that had fate dealt you a different hand, you might think differently.
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If you don’t like it go somewhere where everyone is packing and has to compare their “size of their gun” over a cold bear and a cigarette.
If you weren't misinformed, you would know that by law, you can't carry a gun into a bar. So, unless you are at home drinking a beer and looking at the size of your gun you would be breaking the law.

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Reminds me of the movie Full Metal Jacket. This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.
I think you need to go watch Full Metal Jacket again. The rifle that is for fighting was his weapon. His "gun" that is for fun, was his penis.
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I have been on this earth a good long time, traveled extensively and have never been in the situation where I thought a gun was necessary for my protection. Maybe people should display a little more common sense and a little less testosterone.
Common sense tells me to be prepared, if you are ever in a situation where a gun is necessary and you don't have one, chances are you won't be alive to tell us about it.
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To each their own.

I expected and still do that you or another fanatic will start ranting in big bold capitalized letters about your civil liberties. Please don't disappoint me.

My opinion stays unchanged.
I'm not trying to change your opinion. I just hope that you realize that the criminal doesn't care if there is a no gun sign on your door, he'll be packing anyway.
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