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View Poll Results: Should the City of Dodge City pass it's own Concealed Carry Laws?
Yes 9 19.57%
No 37 80.43%
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:18 PM
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your hot headed, i wouldn't want you carrying a gun
To bad it's not up to you to make that decision. Have a nice day!
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:40 PM
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:51 PM
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Bubba,

You are correct. Our form of city management is that our city manager calls most of the shots. But he actually gets his orders from a few individuals who control our city hall and maybe 4 of our commissioners.

Our Mayor...well he's elected alright...by the other commissioners. He is nothing but someone who reads and follows the agenda. No extra authority or voting power.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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My thought is that you're paying your City Manager some big bucks to do a job. Especially an experienced one. So, let him do his job.
Paying him big bucks to do a job that he doesn't do! Too busy reading the newspaper during meetings. Too busy disappearing to run the City. Too busy refereeing soccer matches to work!

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Bubba,

You are correct. Our form of city management is that our city manager calls most of the shots. But he actually gets his orders from a few individuals who control our city hall and maybe 4 of our commissioners.
Gets his orders from a few individuals with stroke around town, and from maybe 4 commissioners who don't know Jack.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:29 PM
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To bad it's not up to you to make that decision. Have a nice day!
I think I would rather give Bubba a gun, than someone hiding behind an anonymous cloak, with bad grammar.Here you go Bubba. Or better yet, use this one.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:49 PM
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Why does anyone need a gun, when you can take down an airliner full of people with a "box knife"??
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:57 AM
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Hey, mitUSA - 2 things: one, if your CM doesn't do his job, you have to call him out - don't let him get away with that! I would have thought anybody interviewing for or accepting that job would have to know there's a time and place for referee'ing - and it's not during office hours or city council meetings!

two, I agree - why limit guns, indeed?
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I agree with Tex....We can't carry guns in every place can we??? There is a reason for this.
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Well Bubba - you can have one of my guns!! I hat neg reppers with no name............... they are cowards! Easier to just follow the cardinal rule - No neg repping. Say it in a PM or say it on the board - otherwise in Wordie's words!!.....STFU
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D.C. Gun Ban Ruled Unconstitutional, Violates Individual Right To Own A Gun (Not Dodge City)

Friday, March 09, 2007

This week, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Second Amendment is an individual right and concluded that the District of Columbia’s ban on guns in the home is unconstitutional. According to the majority opinion, "[T]he phrase 'the right of the people'...leads us to conclude that the right in question is individual." Also, earlier this week, Second Amendment supporters on Capitol Hill introduced H.R. 1399 - the "District of Columbia Personal Protection Act."
In ruling on the D.C. gun ban case, the majority opinion of the Circuit Court held as follows:

"To summarize, we conclude that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. That right existed prior to the formation of the new government under the Constitution and was premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad). In addition, the right to keep and bear arms had the important and salutary civic purpose of helping to preserve the citizen militia. The civic purpose was also a political expedient for the Federalists in the First Congress as it served, in part, to placate their Anti-federalist opponents. The individual right facilitated militia service by ensuring that citizens would not be barred from keeping the arms they would need when called forth for militia duty. Despite the importance of the Second Amendment's civic purpose, however, the activities it protects are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual's enjoyment of the right contingent upon his or her continued or intermittent enrollment in the militia."

In its ruling, the Court also rejected the argument that the Second Amendment does not apply to the District of Columbia, which has had a gun ban on the books for decades, because it is not a State. The majority opinion concludes that the D.C. prohibition on gun ownership in the home, "amounts to a complete prohibition on the lawful use of handguns for self-defense. As such, we hold it unconstitutional."

The ruling was not unanimous, and the dissenting judge makes it clear in her dissent that opponents of the Second Amendment are still pervasive throughout our federal court system.

Today's ruling is the second time a federal circuit court has upheld the individual nature of the Second Amendment in recent years. In 2001, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously found in the case of U.S. v. Emerson that, "All of the evidence indicates that the Second Amendment, like other parts of the Bill of Rights, applies to and protects individual Americans....We find that the history of the Second Amendment reinforces the plain meaning of its text, namely that it protects individual Americans in their right to keep and bear arms..."

While the court decision was certainly great news, earlier this week, Second Amendment supporters on Capitol Hill introduced H.R. 1399 - the "District of Columbia Personal Protection Act." This legislation, by Representatives Mike Ross (D-Ark.) and Mark Souder (R-Ind.), seeks to restore the constitutionally-guaranteed Second Amendment rights of the residents of the District of Columbia.

In lauding the D.C. court decision, and announcing her plans to introduce the Senate companion bill to H.R. 1399, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) noted, "I agree with the court that the Constitution guarantees law-abiding citizens the right to bear arms and defend themselves. That is why next week I will reintroduce my legislation to repeal the existing ban. Protection of constitutional rights does not cease when you cross into the borders of the District of Columbia. Not only is Washington, D.C.’s gun ban unconstitutional, but it also has been a public policy failure as seen in the rise in crime since its enactment. The time has finally come to change course."

The need for this corrective legislation is obvious. Since 1977, the District has banned the possession of all handguns not acquired and registered before that year. D.C. law also prohibits keeping an assembled rifle or shotgun in the home, effectively outlawing the use of firearms for lawful self-defense. And despite these Draconian gun control laws, Washington, D.C., consistently has one of the highest murder rates in the nation.

This legislation had a record high number of cosponsors in the 109th Congress (235 cosponsors for the House version, and 41 cosponsors for the Senate version). The House has voted on this issue four different times over the past eight years but the Senate has yet to consider it.
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