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Old 03-17-2007, 08:01 AM
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This Monday, March 19th, the full house will be considering and voting on the amendment to the Kansas legal carriers law that will keep all cities in Kansas from passing or restricting concealed carry in any way. You might want to send a email to Pat George, Melvin Neufeld or Tim Huelskamp on this matter asking them to support the amendment. ( george@house.state.ks.us neufeld@house.state.ks.us & huelskamp@senate.state.ks.us )

Why is this necessary?

City officials and commissioners that try to pass their own laws based on their "feelings" are the ones that need to be "restricted".

If Kansas legal carriers suddenly begin doing REALLY stupid things with firearms, then we will have the distinction of being the first rogue state in ALL the history of ALL the states that permit concealed carry. If Kansans prove too irresponsible to legally carry, then maybe we should have our Statehood revoked too...you know, confine Statehood to the states with smart citizens....
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I saw this story last night from next door in Missouri and it’s a good example of how things work in reality. Note the positive reaction from the local police.

Man with concealed weapon shoots alleged robber
By Bill Bryan
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
Wednesday, Mar. 14 2007

Riccardo Crossland used a pellet gun to rob a man legally carrying a real gun outside a Bridgeton motel Tuesday morning and ended up shot, police said.

Crossland went off to a hospital with wounds of the hand and leg; the victim went on his way with the congratulations of police.

"Here was a robbery where we have a good ending for once," said Bridgeton Police Major Don Steinman, who said the shooting was clearly self-defense.

The 23-year-old victim holds a concealed-carry permit from his home state of Florida, which is honored in Missouri, officials said.

"He had his gun aimed at my face," the robbery victim said in an interview granted on the condition that his name and hometown not be used. "I definitely thought he was going to shoot me, so I started firing."

Crossland's weapon turned out to be a pellet gun that resembled a .45-caliber handgun, police said. The victim had a real .45 in his waistband.

Crossland, 39, of the 7100 block of Beulah Avenue in Jennings, was taken to ePaul Health Center, police said, for treatment of his wounds, which were not considered life-threatening. He was charged with first-degree robbery and armed criminal action.

Police said Crossland is on probation for a drug-related offense, and has convictions for robbery, burglary, stealing and drug-related crimes.

The victim gave this account:

He had stayed several days at the Motel 6, near Interstate 270 and St. Charles Rock Road, while looking at a race car engine to buy from a man in St. Louis.

About 3 a.m. Tuesday, he took his pit bull on an errand for food. Just outside the motel, he encountered two men who asked questions about the dog before one of them pulled out what looked like a gun and announced a holdup.

"The one guy started to pat me down, and I didn't want him to find my gun, so I was handing them over everything I could," the victim said. "I was just waiting for the right opportunity to get my gun."

The robbers then started to depart with the man's wallet, necklace, ring and cash.

"The guy with the gun was walking away with the gun at his side, but then he turned around and aimed it at my face," the victim said. "I definitely thought he was going to shoot me, so I pulled my gun out and started firing."

He fired seven shots and the pair fled.

Crossland was found about a quarter of a mile away, hiding on a parking lot in the 12900 block of St. Charles Rock Road, police said. The accomplice was not caught.

The victim said he had the concealed-carry permit for two years but had never used the weapon. Missouri has no tracking system for cases in which people with concealed-carry permits use their weapons.


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Good for the Floridian!!! I just love these stories!!
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brought a smile to my face!
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Too bad that little old hundred year old lady that got beat up and mugged in New York wasn't packing a 45!! "Sorry officer, I didn't mean to fire the whole clip into the poor "victim"!! Now that there's funny, I don't care what ya say!!
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Too bad that little old hundred year old lady that got beat up and mugged in New York wasn't packing a 45!!....
Part of the idea with CC is the punk has to wonder, “Is she packing or not. Do I feel lucky?”

Even the folks that don’t carry have less of a risk.
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Update from Tim Huelskamp

In reply to an earlier letter to Tim Huelskamp, this is his reply that I just received today:

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Tim,

Visited w/ the NRA lobbyist today – we are hopeful this bill will pass both chambers.

Sincerely,
Tim
I appreciate all that Tim is doing to get this passed.
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was taken to ePaul Health Center, police said, for treatment of his wounds, which were not considered life-threatening.
Next time the guy can save the public a few bucks and shoot a little more straight. I'm thinking head shot....
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The last time I saw numbers the survivability rate of a handgun wound was 85%.
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The last time I saw numbers the survivability rate of a handgun wound was 85%.
That's where it's handy to have a hi-cap magazine with some hollow points...
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