Ford County Commissioner

[old timer]

John Swayze on Boot Hill Museum --

"Commissioner John Swayze said the museum has dropped the ball on providing entertainment to tourists and locals alike in the past couple years.
"The last two times I've been to Boot Hill in the last two or three years, I've been very disappointed," he said. "Maybe the problem is in how it's being run."

However, both commissioners said it was important to keep the museum open. "For a number of years, it has operated on zero dollars and contributed millions of dollars to the community," said Goodnight."

DodgeCity.com: Dodge Globe: Local News: Stories Dodge City Daily Globe, Jan. 1, 2008
Hmmm- given that commission chair has been (is ?) chair of Boot Hill Museum -- must have been a quiet moment after Swayze's comment. And the Millions of Dollars -- maybe years and years ago -- but less than 60,000 visitors in a year doesn't equal millions of dollars. It has not operated on zero dollars -- spends hundreds of thousands of dollar a year -- at least in the budget last time I saw it.

[aft_lizard01]

While I agree that something stinks at Boothill and that needs to be addressed but 60,000 visitors a year easily gets you over a million a year, even if just 50% of them are out of staters. It's simple math.

60,000x 1 night at a hotel= a little over 4.5 million ,but assuming most will be sharing a room or coming in RV's lets take that by a third that still is 1.5 million on hotel rooms(using an average nightly rate of 75.25 night as taking by the web and using the averages I found per hotel, not scientific but its what I got). Lets not forget the spending on food beverages, memorabilia etc which can easily exceed that spent on hotel rooms.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by aft_lizard01

While I agree that something stinks at Boothill and that needs to be addressed but 60,000 visitors a year easily gets you over a million a year, even if just 50% of them are out of staters. It's simple math.

60,000x 1 night at a hotel= a little over 4.5 million ,but assuming most will be sharing a room or coming in RV's lets take that by a third that still is 1.5 million on hotel rooms(using an average nightly rate of 75.25 night as taking by the web and using the averages I found per hotel, not scientific but its what I got). Lets not forget the spending on food beverages, memorabilia etc which can easily exceed that spent on hotel rooms.

Facts only confuse old timer. It's better to just go along with whatever he currently believes. Imagine how much money we'll lose when a half-million visit the casino each year. Tear up the bricks, let's go back to dirt.

[old timer]

I don't assume that each visitor stays over night. In fact (darn facts) most don't.

What other facts have I got wrong? Darn it, must be my reading books that messes up my point of view.

Casino -- requires actually a million visits per year to make profit, per Butler. Of course that includes each and every visit by locals.... Como se dice gambling en espanol ?

[CRAZY HORSE]

Let's Send Some Money To Hutchinson To Help Their Museum.
We Got Lots Of Sales Tax Money To Get Rid Of.
Happy Hunting

[Made in the USA]

Swayze's comment hit too hard at home for he is probably correct. How it is being run, and who is running it!

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by old timer

I don't assume that each visitor stays over night. In fact (darn facts) most don't.

What other facts have I got wrong? Darn it, must be my reading books that messes up my point of view.

Casino -- requires actually a million visits per year to make profit, per Butler. Of course that includes each and every visit by locals.... Como se dice gambling en espanol ?

That would be one of 'your facts' that is completely fabricated.

Butler has never said such - nor is it even close to being true. Casino profits are a factor of gaming revenue, less expenses...not of visitation numbers. There is a correlation between avg visits and avg net-win, but it's your fantacy that Butler said it takes a million visits per year to make a profit. Again, something you say just to be inflamatory, whether there's any truth to it or not..!

[old timer]

a million visits was Butler's figure -- but perhaps they meant that as a goal -- in that, sorry I misstated -- but, that was their public figure -- and I heard it in person, it goes without saying.

By the way -- the third applicant's location is of interest -- Southeast by race track area

go to http://www.ford.kansasgov.com/tax/TaxSearch.asp

try maupin -- wonder it that's the land ?

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by old timer

a million visits was Butler's figure -- but perhaps they meant that as a goal -- in that, sorry I misstated -- but, that was their public figure -- and I heard it in person, it goes without saying.

By the way -- the third applicant's location is of interest -- Southeast by race track area

go to http://www.ford.kansasgov.com/tax/TaxSearch.asp

try maupin -- wonder it that's the land ?

1) Visitor numbers come from market feasibility studies completed by national firms. The first, Christiansen Capital Advisors who contracted with Lottery in 2004 and updated in 2006, and provided in-depth market development detail re:the SW gaming zone. In addition, each applicant is required to provide a copy of an independent feasibility study. There are about twelve Gold-standard gaming market researchers in the US. All have been busy in Kansas. The 'million visitors' is a product of such independent research and not a number created by Butler or any other applicant. A little research on your part would have revealed all of this information and allowed you to present your facts correctly.

2) The third applicant (Epic Gaming) is interesting. Again, Old Timer, do your homework before creating another rumor. It is not Maupin land.

Who is behind Epic Gaming? Their lobbyist is Doug Lawrence (previously represented the Greyhounds, and then Ruffin), and now who?

[Made in the USA]

Somewhere, I got lost in all the banter?? Let's see, the title of this thread is "Ford County Commissioner". Well, when Weber gets in as a City Commissioner, all will be well again!