Judge says You will Build It...

[Flying Dutchman]

I believe what Terry wants is for a vote, by the community, on wether to build an SEC or not.

[K C Muffin]

hmmmmm seems to me that another vote ain't gonna happen unless somebunny gets off their duff and works hard!

[TexKan]

I think another vote just might be whaat is needed. Seems lots of folks wanted it - at the time - since it passed BUT over the years it may not be the thing to do any longer. Lots of times in our own mind we "plan" on something, don't accomplish it in the time we thought we would and we do have to kinda rethink..... is it still a good thing to do???

I understand those that say - we voted build it as we voted but I think rather than make a mistake it would be better to look at it again and hold the responsible parties that made the delays and sidesteppin truely responsible for not doing what the voter voted in. Truth is tho that 5 or 6 years later the original plans are now dated. Let the folks that held up the process take the hit. Course if ya voted sumthin in without the solid funds to build then everyone was dreamin in my opinion.

What I have heard is ......... the funds were there but diverted elsewhere..... the folks that diverted the funds otta have to answer to the voters. Perhaps those folks didn't get re elected???? I would hope..............meanwhile I think another look is in order - no sense spendin money you really don't have just to prove a point. Course the voters could sue the folks that were responsible for the delay......... isn't that what's kinda goin on now??? I say voters unite and take your town back!!! So maybe a petetion is a good thing.

[Mike B.]

Bubba
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WE need to submit a petition for a recall vote on Terry Lee for not performing his job.
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Bubba,

If you do not remember, Terry Lee was elected on a stance he took openly. He has always stood against the building of a Special Events Center. And He was voted in as a commissioner on that stance! How can you say He's not performing his job? He's doing what He said He'd do! What part of that don't you understand?

No where does it state that a public official must do and or vote for what the majority of the voters want. (If that was even the case)

Maybe you think he's not a good school teacher? What is Terry not doing?

Mike B.

[Bubba]

His job as far as this subject goes is to follow the will of the voters and build everything that was voted on and won by a majority on the "Why not Dodge" vote in 1997, not just what he thinks should be built from it. The voters spoke, the comissioners, at least some of them, didn't listen. That is wrong and the judge agreed by telling them to build it already. After the question won by a majority of voters, it should have been built no matter what his personal feelings were on the subject.

His job was to see that it was built. He didn't do that job. By not doing that job, he is derelict in his duties to the city and all of it's citizen's. What part of that don't you understand?


Also, I didn't even know that he was a school teacher and it doesn't really matter what he does for a living.

[Flying Dutchman]

Again, my two cents, is that a majority of the people WANT an SEC but they do not want our commissioners involved with it. They do not like, or trust, our local governement, city and county, and are basing things on how the race track and softball field were handled. Going by how this whole thing has turned into a quagmire I do not blame them. If a vote was worded "Do you want an SEC built WITHOUT the local government being involved with it's construction and operating proceedures" it would be an overwhelming yes vote. By trying to be all sneaky with the original vote how can we trust them now? If it was put to vote, and it was decided to build it, just how long do you think they would drag their feet and muck around again? How many more commitees (sic) do you think they would keep forming? How many hands would get greased before the first brick was layed?

If I were the judge I would have not only ruled how he did but I would put a freeze on the funds (which means none going to the race track or anything) until they began building the damn thing.

[Detector]

If it was put to vote, and it was decided to build it, just how long do you think they would drag their feet and muck around again? How many more commitees (sic) do you think they would keep forming? How many hands would get greased before the first brick was layed?

If they are allowed to ignore the will of the voters and get away with it whats next? Does this mean from now on if they don't like something that was voted in they just drag their feet and muck around again until they get their way?

The slick Willey's of politics have managed to turn this in to a do we build or not debate when that ship sailed years ago. No matter which side of that fence you stand on is irrelevant.

The majority VOTED to have it built and no one should have the power to negate that vote, and it shows just how perverted people can be when it comes to getting their way even if its not right.

[Bubba]

That is what I was trying to say, "which side of that fence you stand on is irrelevant."

Once the question went before the voters, the city commisioners no longer had any control or say in the matter. Their only job on that subject was to do the will of the voters. In this case, see that it was built.

[TexKan]

I would say yeah IF it had been built on time. Considering how long has gone by - the whole idea or plan may be dated. So do ya support building just to prove a point? Seems like if it's a waste of money as is - then maybe you need a "look see" at least to determine is that what everyone still wants. Lots of those that voted may be dead, moved, not interested. Since it's been so long now. Don't know how you get a "private" entity to build a SEC for ya - seems like that is just a govt kinda thing to me. I don't know any land investors that would see profit in builing a SEC there. Especially the grandeous one I been hearin about.

We have Convention Centers that are owned by private individuals. Course Galveston is able to support it. I just don't see DC supporting that kinda cost. Tourism doesn't equate "convention center" Ya need more than a few venues per year. Good Luck with whatever happens - but I think realism should rule the day - even if it didn't rule your govt. That is no excuse to be stupid twice.

[Bubba]

If it is built as a "convention center" then it will definately fail! If it is built as the "special events center" that we were voting on, then it might stand a chance.

The event center was/is supposed to be for events, with a seating capacity of between 7500-10,000. It would be big enough to hold the DCHS graduation and not be so limited on the amount of people that the seniors can invite to see them graduate. It would house the Dodge City Legend and give them a nicer place to play that might actually serve beer at the concession stand and be able to have beer companies as sponsers for the team. It would have provisions to put "ice" on the floor to bring in "ice capade" type shows or maybe even some hockey exhibition games. It would be big enough to be put on the list for some regional NCAA tounements. Concert promoters would take a chance and bring in a few bigger name concerts if they have the opportunity to sell 7500-10000 seats. The reason the concerts don't come to Dodge now is because to sell 2000-3000 tickets to the civic center doesn't bring in enough dollars to make the stop wortwhile for the artist.

If it is brought to a vote again to build or not build it, then the tax itself should be brought to a vote as to wheter continue or discontinue the tax.