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Old 01-05-2008, 09:00 AM
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Speaking of church affiliation.... Huckabee could use a nice hard look, also if Huckabee goes all the way, you can start throwing your personal rights out the window!
Don't worry about Huckabee. Just because he won Iowa doesn't mean he will go all the way. He doesn't have the money and that's what it's all about. He's the new hot thing right now but he will fade like the sunset at 6 pm.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:12 AM
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Yeah--

if I had a choice between Hilary and McCain, I would choose in a second.

The only choice I would sweat over would be Obama and McCain.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:16 AM
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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As long as we are calling for investigations into the church of some candidates let’s not pass on Obama’s church.

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I’ve been to Barack Obama’s church. Before I give you my impressions, I want to alert you to the fact that there is a growing chorus of critics who believe Obama’s Church is bad news. Some are calling it too liberal and that it promotes a black separatist agenda.The group, BOND, (Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny) came out recently and said:

“This is obviously a racist Black church masquerading as Christian. Members of the church even refer to themselves as an ‘African People.’ Obama has been campaigning, saying he wants to unite the American people—he needs to explain his affiliation with this separatist church… The liberal media is not reporting these stories because they don’t want to tarnish Obama’s reputation, but they’re doing a major disservice to the American public.”
Inside Barack Obama's Church - The Brody File: David Brody Blog - CBN News
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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Don't worry about Huckabee. Just because he won Iowa doesn't mean he will go all the way. He doesn't have the money and that's what it's all about. He's the new hot thing right now but he will fade like the sunset at 6 pm.
He is as scary as Hilary. I hope you are right

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As long as we are calling for investigations into the church of some candidates let’s not pass on Obama’s church.
Inside Barack Obama's Church - The Brody File: David Brody Blog - CBN News
There is nothing hidden that wont be revealed....(hopefully)
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Lol

How subtle can it get??

Since the general opinion among blacks is that Obama is too culturally white, and of African descent, rather than African-American, to attract their interest (they seem to be graviating towards Hilary), I doubt that anything will turn up there. Nice try, though.

I am sure that whatever needs to be put to light, will be.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:14 PM
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I don’t see much enthusiasm here. Try this on for size. A popular white Republican attends a church that posts this on the church’s website.

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent…… We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.

Question. Would the media ignore this or would it be beaten to death until the candidate was spending all of his time denying that he was a white supremacist and a racist? I think that anyone that’s honest knows the answer to that.

I copied that from Obama’s church’s website and changed only the word black to white. Since Obama is a Democrat he gets a pass in this PC world. Only Republicans get taken to task about their religion.

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:18 PM
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I agree it's crappy, but he seems to be untouchable. Being black and well-spoken....well, it's a hard combination to beat!
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Only minimally involved in civil rights, seems to transcend race. Unbeatable.

Unless McCain gets the Republican nomination. McCain has experience. With racism being what it is, Obama would have difficulty gaining respect in racism central. McCain has respect because of his Vietnam experience, his experience on Indian Affairs subcommittee, and his coming from the Four Corners nexus. Excellent compromise candidate. Can't get too far ahead of the general attitudes of the country.

Highwayman, the analogy just doesn't hold. There is a lot of difference between primary racism (to protect one's privileged position) and secondary racism (a reaction to having been hurt, individually, familially, and historically).
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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...Highwayman, the analogy just doesn't hold. There is a lot of difference between primary racism (to protect one's privileged position) and secondary racism (a reaction to having been hurt, individually, familially, and historically).
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that reverse racism is acceptable and only whites are to be held accountable for racist comments. If so, you only reinforce my point.

BTW, I don’t think that a black Republican would get a pass either.
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