Speak Out to WalMart CEO

[Dodgegal]

I guess my take on all of this is that if they do not like the job, they can always find another one. Employers do not have to hire them. No one has a right to more money for a job. The business makes an offer of XXX per hour. The employee says yes or no. If it is no, then someone else is offered the job. If the employer wants to offer benefits, it is their right. But the employee does not have the right to demand it. They can ask for it and it is yes or no. We are hearing on the news we have all these jobs that only illegal persons can fill. If you do not like your job, then go to the other employers and find one you want to do more.

Sorry...I just do not feel that unions are the best answer in most situations today. They cost us (the consumer) more money because of the additional expenses employers must pay. Think of how much cheaper your Ford or Chevy would be if they did not have to pay $30 per hour and a full benefit package to every employee.

I will get off my soap box this morning and go to work now.

[wordsmythe]

When I worked at Excel I was the only perosn in my department not in the union. I thought the union was only good for keeping drunks and idiots, who should have been fired, working next to me.

When I worked at Walmart I was very much pro union. The workers had no say whatsoever in anything. It indeed was a take it or leave it kind of thing and that wasn't a good situation.

In Hays walmart was the big employer of college kids and there weren't many other choices to make for an extra job there so the kids were frightened to stand up for themselves.

If you got in trouble you were written up and that usually involved a 2 on 1 "coaching" session. This usually was your direct supervisor and an assistant manager in a room telling you how much trouble you are in and trying to scare you.

I was threatened with one of these once and I handed the supervisor my pen and said I was sure that one would write so bes ure to spell my name correctly. But if he insisted on a 2 on 1 thing he'd likley need to bring more help into that closed room.

One of my coworkers was involved in one of them and it was just threats and intimidation from management. Since it was his word against theirs nothing could be done even through company channels.

As much as I detested the union at Excel I say that walmart needs one.

But if you REALLY want to do something to speak out to Walmart signing an online petition isn't it. All it will do is give you the false feeling that you've DONE something and it'll give walmartians something to laugh about.

If you want to impact them then stop shopping there and encourage everyone you know to do the same otherwise you're just making yourself feel better and not doing anything else.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by allsmiles

I have bought several things at Nebraska furniture mart and have received great customer service with every visit.

Same here...it's great!

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Dodgegal

I guess my take on all of this is that if they do not like the job, they can always find another one. Employers do not have to hire them. No one has a right to more money for a job. The business makes an offer of XXX per hour. The employee says yes or no. If it is no, then someone else is offered the job. If the employer wants to offer benefits, it is their right. But the employee does not have the right to demand it. They can ask for it and it is yes or no. We are hearing on the news we have all these jobs that only illegal persons can fill. If you do not like your job, then go to the other employers and find one you want to do more.

Sorry...I just do not feel that unions are the best answer in most situations today. They cost us (the consumer) more money because of the additional expenses employers must pay. Think of how much cheaper your Ford or Chevy would be if they did not have to pay $30 per hour and a full benefit package to every employee.

I will get off my soap box this morning and go to work now.

I agree with you. If a worker doesn't like the wage and benefit's they receive at Wally World then go somewhere else with your "marketable skills" and make more. Again you can't expect $19.00 an hour to run a can of soup over a scanner. I can do that myself in the self checkout lane with no training. I have never worked at a Walmart (although someday I think I am destined to be a door greeter) but like Dodge Gal said why do people automatically deserve more money? Walmart pays a certain wage and has people standing in line to work there. If they didn't then they would have to pay more. Walmart is here to make money, bottom line and like any business they won't pay any more than they have to. Walmart for the most part is unskilled labor and you have to ask, what is unskilled labor worth?

[K C Muffin]

Exactly my point. So just because they're a national chain, they automatically deserve more government intervention? I've read on the Board how many of us don't like Wallly's, but somebody's shopping there. Be it convenience (late hours) or prices, there's a reason. It's a hassle! I won't go there unless I really have to! Where do we draw the line at government intervention? I feel sorry for the workers there that I know can't be making ends meet. Again, even in Southwest Kansas, there are options. You can upgrade your skills at the local community college or even high school, in some cases. Move up, move out if you have to. But if a job with certain benefits is important to you, you aren't working at Wally's. Cuz it ain't Big Brother's place to make 'em do it.

[Detector]

I agree AOO I've never understood why if you don't like the job you just don't move on. I've always thought the government/union had to0 much control over private business. Its kind of like our immigration issue. People say if it were not for businesses willing to hire illegals the illegals would go away. But, if it were not for the illegals willing to work for low pay the employers would be forced to pay more. So whose really to blame? We chose to blame employers instead of the employees.

[wordsmythe]

It might have something to do with that major employer paying such low wages that the employees can't actually survive. Then they get on state assistance to make it then you get complaints that they are abusing the system...

Moving to another job isn't always an option.

In Hays when I worked at malwart you had very few choices. You worked at wally world, the battery plant, sykes or you hoped one of the local merchants were looking for someone.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

It might have something to do with that major employer paying such low wages that the employees can't actually survive. Then they get on state assistance to make it then you get complaints that they are abusing the system...

Moving to another job isn't always an option.

In Hays when I worked at malwart you had very few choices. You worked at wally world, the battery plant, sykes or you hoped one of the local merchants were looking for someone.

OR you went to college/vo-tech/community college or MAYBE join the military in order to get an education and have a skill to make yourself more marketable. ANYONE that wants to go to college these days can regardless of income, race or whatever.....even people with a 4th grade reading level can go to college. (DCCC has some football players in that category) So there ISN"T any excuse for someone to HAVE to work somewhere. They CHOOSE to work there because they don't CHOOSE other options. It's all about choice, motivation and how hard you want to work or sacrifice to get a better job.

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

OR you went to college/vo-tech/community college or MAYBE join the military in order to get an education and have a skill to make yourself more marketable. ANYONE that wants to go to college these days can regardless of income, race or whatever.....even people with a 4th grade reading level can go to college. (DCCC has some football players in that category) So there ISN"T any excuse for someone to HAVE to work somewhere. They CHOOSE to work there because they don't CHOOSE other options. It's all about choice, motivation and how hard you want to work or sacrifice to get a better job.

Have you seen what your congress and president have done to the programs that were helping people go through schools like that?

It's gotten harder and harder to get grants and even loans.

Even if you have the means to go to school to better yourself you still have to work somewhere and if the choices are limited to a very few employers who you can make a school schedule fit then you are stuck.

And no matter how you'd like to see it happen the next answer isn't always to join the military. I almost did it and I know I'd have ended up MUCH worse off than any other choice I could have made.

[K C Muffin]

I'll agree that college is expensive and grants aren't available like they used to be. We're paying off step-daughter's college and now she's beginning to apply for financial aid for her Master's. She, too, was complaining that there's not enough money out there for higher education - she couldn't even qualify for any of the low-interest loan programs. So, she and her hubby will just take out an equity loan on the house and pay for it that way. At least the interest will be tax deductible.....

But where there's a will, there's a way. It takes hours, I'm sure to apply for all the grant money there is out there. Some of it is $500, some of it is hardly anything at all. But someone who really wants it will apply.

Are there any good counselors at DCCC? There are up here at JCCC. What they will help you determine is how much you'll be worth to an employer with an education and how much you're worth to them now. Look at that difference to tell you whether a student loan is going to be worth it in the long run. More often, it is.

It's more of the entitled generation. They just want the money handed to them to go to college. Some of them didn't have it drilled into them in high school to keep their grades up so they were eligible. "Somebody else" should pay for it. I don't get it.