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Old 05-17-2006, 06:04 PM
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She, too, was complaining that there's not enough money out there for higher education - Not enough money "out there"? There's plenty of money, it just has to be earned. The "money out there" means it comes from other people that work and pay taxes. In this country ANYONE can go to college. It's a lot easier for some than others but if you are willing to work hard and sacrifice, which a lot of young kids aren't...you can go to school.

It's more of the entitled generation. Exactly. The "college is owed to me" generation instead of the "I gotta earn my way through college generation" They just want the money handed to them to go to college. Some of them didn't have it drilled into them in high school to keep their grades up so they were eligible. "Somebody else" meaning the tax payersshould pay for it. I don't get it.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE=Army_of_One Good points!

I just happen to be pretty old-fashioned when it comes to the kids. Use the time you have while they're small to teach them ground rules upon which they can base decisions the rest of their life. Show them that there are rewards for those that work hard. The rewards reaped by those that don't work hard are temporary and won't bring happiness in the long run.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:49 PM
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It might have something to do with that major employer paying such low wages that the employees can't actually survive. Then they get on state assistance to make it then you get complaints that they are abusing the system...

Moving to another job isn't always an option.

In Hays when I worked at malwart you had very few choices. You worked at wally world, the battery plant, sykes or you hoped one of the local merchants were looking for someone.
The battery plant is a "peachy" job, Wordy!!!! I think I still got lead in my ass from working there-- What is amazing, before it was the crappy battery plant, it was a Medical Products Facility --Baxter Labs. It went from a nice, clean, sterile building----to an environmental nightmare!
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:10 AM
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Exactly my point. So just because they're a national chain, they automatically deserve more government intervention? I've read on the Board how many of us don't like Wallly's, but somebody's shopping there. Be it convenience (late hours) or prices, there's a reason. It's a hassle! I won't go there unless I really have to! Where do we draw the line at government intervention? I feel sorry for the workers there that I know can't be making ends meet. Again, even in Southwest Kansas, there are options. You can upgrade your skills at the local community college or even high school, in some cases. Move up, move out if you have to. But if a job with certain benefits is important to you, you aren't working at Wally's. Cuz it ain't Big Brother's place to make 'em do it.

KC - We don't live in Kansas City or even Wichita. Have you been to DC lately? There is ONLY a Wal-Mart. We have no other choices. If Gibsons or Alco were back I would pay more for my items, at my choice. I would not show up at Wal-Mart. I enter that store maybe once a month. I pay out the nose for toilet paper and shampoo at Dillons and Heartland, just because I don't like to enter Wal-Mart.
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I knew Wal Mart was the only "discount" store, but you still do have other grocery outlets, right? I dunno. That would still be my fave place to avoid.
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It might have something to do with that major employer paying such low wages that the employees can't actually survive. Then they get on state assistance to make it then you get complaints that they are abusing the system...

Moving to another job isn't always an option.

In Hays when I worked at malwart you had very few choices. You worked at wally world, the battery plant, sykes or you hoped one of the local merchants were looking for someone.
I was a single mom working for a bit over minimum wage with NO state help. I did not have cable TV, nor a phone. My car got me to and from work. So I really hate to hear how people can not make it. It can be done. All you have to do is get rid of the luxury items. I did it for a year and a half. I never went hungry. I just made sure my dollars were spent wisely.

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KC - We don't live in Kansas City or even Wichita. Have you been to DC lately? There is ONLY a Wal-Mart. We have no other choices. If Gibsons or Alco were back I would pay more for my items, at my choice. I would not show up at Wal-Mart. I enter that store maybe once a month. I pay out the nose for toilet paper and shampoo at Dillons and Heartland, just because I don't like to enter Wal-Mart..
I live here in Dodge and I only stepped foot in Wal-Mart once last year. I purchase all my items at other outlets here in town. I thought it was costing me more, but I actually spent less over the year. (hubby keeps amazing records on what we spend and where) Why? Because I only got the things I needed. My impulse buying was shut down. Also, if you watch the sales, your TP and shampoo is cheaper at Dillons. I am a price watcher and it suprises me how much you can save.
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During the last election, Boortz had a column about what his responses would have been to certain debate questions. I had to find them and give everyone food for thought because it fits this topic so well.

"The job belongs to the employer, not the employee. You have the job skills. The employer has the jobs. If the employer can make a profit by purchasing your job skills to perform his job then you get a paycheck. If your job skills cost the employer too much, or if your job skills don't meet the employer's needs, then you don't get a paycheck. If you fail to develop your job skills, you run the risk of not having a paycheck. If your job skills don't match the employer's needs, you don't get a paycheck. If you charge too much for your job skills, you won't get hired. You have no right to a job. You do have a right to be left alone by government and your fellow citizens to develop your own God-given talents in such a way that employers will seek you out. You also have a right to ignore educational opportunities and to develop a slovenly work ethic so that employers will shun you. You make your choices, and you live with the consequences of your decisions. I would tell that person that any American with desirable job skills and a good worth ethic, properly priced, would have to hide under his bed to avoid getting a good job. If you believe in the year 2004 that you can build a sound career as a textile plant worker in South Carolina then you are living a lie, and that delusion will soon catch up to you. You need to understand that you are a free and sovereign individual. You don't belong to the government, and it's not the government's responsibility to provide you with a job. It's the government's job to clear the way for you to exercise your free choices, develop your skills, hone your work ethic, and contract with an employer eager to hire someone like you. Past that, you're on your own, and that's life in a free society."

"Wages are something to be negotiated between the employer and the employee. It is not the job of government to set wages for private sector employees. Our Constitution specifically states that the government is not to alter the terms of a contract between individuals. The matter of wages paid for services rendered is something to be resolved in negotiations between the employer and employee and then expressed in the terms of a contract between the parties. The government has no role here. And while I'm addressing this, let's talk about the people who are actually earning the minimum wage. Most of these people are teenagers working in entry-level jobs. They're developing job skills and will only spend a minimum amount of time at the minimum wage. But what about that small number of people who are trying to raise a family on minimum wage. My opponent won't say this. It's harsh, but it's the truth. If you have done such a pathetic job of developing job skills and a work ethic that you cannot earn more than the minimum wage, then you have no business having children. We have far too many people in this country who have children that they know full well they cannot afford to raise. The answer to this problem is not to force employers to pay them more than they are worth. The answer is to educate people as to the cost of properly raising a child, and to encourage them to make sure they can pay the bills before they make the decision to have a baby."

Taken from: http://boortz.com/nuze/200410/10142004.html
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I knew Wal Mart was the only "discount" store, but you still do have other grocery outlets, right? I dunno. That would still be my fave place to avoid.

They have Dillon's times 2, and Gene's Heartland Foods(Formerly Homeland(Formerly Safeway))
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I remeber those stores........ or the lack of a real customer focused grocery store............... just makes ya wanna get the igloo and head to Oklahoma border........... oooppsss don't recall any signature stores in Buffalo either... OK OK to get to a REAL signature store ya gotta go 150 miles east......... man I sure don't miss that bout Dodge...... must be why I weighed less when I was there............ hey might not be such a bad thing!!!!
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