How much "globla warming" did you get?

[Army_of_One]

How much snow did we get here in Dodge....Inches of ice a couple weeks ago, inches of snow this week...fruit killed in California due to freezing, people in Houston wearing coats...this global warming is getting ridiculous...

[lurker]

This is an article from the Wall Street Journal
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Will Al Gore Melt?
By FLEMMING ROSE and BJORN LOMBORG
January 18, 2007; Page A16

Al Gore is traveling around the world telling us how we must fundamentally change our civilization due to the threat of global warming. Today he is in Denmark to disseminate this message. But if we are to embark on the costliest political project ever, maybe we should make sure it rests on solid ground. It should be based on the best facts, not just the convenient ones. This was the background for the biggest Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, to set up an investigative interview with Mr. Gore. And for this, the paper thought it would be obvious to team up with Bjorn Lomborg, author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist," who has provided one of the clearest counterpoints to Mr. Gore's tune.

The interview had been scheduled for months. Mr. Gore's agent yesterday thought Gore-meets-Lomborg would be great. Yet an hour later, he came back to tell us that Bjorn Lomborg should be excluded from the interview because he's been very critical of Mr. Gore's message about global warming and has questioned Mr. Gore's evenhandedness. According to the agent, Mr. Gore only wanted to have questions about his book and documentary, and only asked by a reporter. These conditions were immediately accepted by Jyllands-Posten. Yet an hour later we received an email from the agent saying that the interview was now cancelled. What happened?


One can only speculate. But if we are to follow Mr. Gore's suggestions of radically changing our way of life, the costs are not trivial. If we slowly change our greenhouse gas emissions over the coming century, the U.N. actually estimates that we will live in a warmer but immensely richer world. However, the U.N. Climate Panel suggests that if we follow Al Gore's path down toward an environmentally obsessed society, it will have big consequences for the world, not least its poor. In the year 2100, Mr. Gore will have left the average person 30% poorer, and thus less able to handle many of the problems we will face, climate change or no climate change.

Clearly we need to ask hard questions. Is Mr. Gore's world a worthwhile sacrifice? But it seems that critical questions are out of the question. It would have been great to ask him why he only talks about a sea-level rise of 20 feet. In his movie he shows scary sequences of 20-feet flooding Florida, San Francisco, New York, Holland, Calcutta, Beijing and Shanghai. But were realistic levels not dramatic enough? The U.N. climate panel expects only a foot of sea-level rise over this century. Moreover, sea levels actually climbed that much over the past 150 years. Does Mr. Gore find it balanced to exaggerate the best scientific knowledge available by a factor of 20?

Mr. Gore says that global warming will increase malaria and highlights Nairobi as his key case. According to him, Nairobi was founded right where it was too cold for malaria to occur. However, with global warming advancing, he tells us that malaria is now appearing in the city. Yet this is quite contrary to the World Health Organization's finding. Today Nairobi is considered free of malaria, but in the 1920s and '30s, when temperatures were lower than today, malaria epidemics occurred regularly. Mr. Gore's is a convenient story, but isn't it against the facts?

He considers Antarctica the canary in the mine, but again doesn't tell the full story. He presents pictures from the 2% of Antarctica that is dramatically warming and ignores the 98% that has largely cooled over the past 35 years. The U.N. panel estimates that Antarctica will actually increase its snow mass this century. Similarly, Mr. Gore points to shrinking sea ice in the Northern Hemisphere, but don't mention that sea ice in the Southern Hemisphere is increasing. Shouldn't we hear those facts? Mr. Gore talks about how the higher temperatures of global warming kill people. He specifically mentions how the European heat wave of 2003 killed 35,000. But he entirely leaves out how global warming also means less cold and saves lives. Moreover, the avoided cold deaths far outweigh the number of heat deaths. For the U.K. it is estimated that 2,000 more will die from global warming. But at the same time 20,000 fewer will die of cold. Why does Mr. Gore tell only one side of the story?

Al Gore is on a mission. If he has his way, we could end up choosing a future, based on dubious claims, that could cost us, according to a U.N. estimate, $553 trillion over this century. Getting answers to hard questions is not an unreasonable expectation before we take his project seriously. It is crucial that we make the right decisions posed by the challenge of global warming. These are best achieved through open debate, and we invite him to take the time to answer our questions: We are ready to interview you any time, Mr. Gore -- and anywhere.

Mr. Rose is culture editor of Jyllands-Posten, in Copenhagen. Mr. Lomborg is a professor at the Copenhagen Business School.

[TexKan]

Well as with everything by the time we really do get worried it will take millions to fix and it will be too late anyhow............ altho just to make us feel better the goverment will be takin the millions just to make us feel like we are doin sumthin!................... hell I don't think Gore has the answer - but his sork is interesting........... I do think altho that we otta be more careful with our planet where and when we can....... gotta sell big business on that first.............. that ain't gonna happen!

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by TexKan

gotta sell big business on that first.............. that ain't gonna happen!

Exxon Backs Groups That Question Global Warming

or

Exxon cuts ties to warming skeptics - Environment - MSNBC.com

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by lurker

This is an article from the Wall Street Journal

Mr. Rose is culture editor of Jyllands-Posten, in Copenhagen. Mr. Lomborg is a professor at the Copenhagen Business School

Mr. Rose is disciple of a group that called for a Project for a New American Century, the group makes AoO look like a bleeding heart liberal. Dr. Lomborg is a statistician who's assumptions have been widely debunked tho his critics do aknowledge his criticsm of the methods used to "prove" global warming have some merit.

Global Warming is now generally accepted within the scientific community,(it does not mean there will be no winter weather). Alas the normal scientific methods do not lend themselves to experimentation on a global scale which makes it easier for some skeptics to discard the theory.

[Highwayman]

Even many of the scientists that agree on global warming don’t agree that it is caused by humans. Never the less one of my favorite ideas to deal with it has been seeding the oceans with iron. It’s relatively cheap if you use many of the ships that are already crossing anyway and rig them to spread iron dust as they go.

http://www.planktos.com/educational/news.htm

[lurker]

alGore invented the internet so we could search and research so we would print everything we found that forces us to buy reams of paper that come from trees that we deforested reducing vegetation that absorbs CO2.

Therefore, I declare alGore responsible for Globla Warming!

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by lurker

.....Therefore, I declare alGore responsible for Globla Warming!

It has been reported that Algore polluted his own farm into a toxic waste dump.

[Bubba]

I watched a Discovery channel show the other day about Antartica...they have drilled ice core samples all the way to the bottom of the ice and have found no fewer than 8 global warming events in the history recorded by what they found in the ice. That goes to show that the planet runs in cycles, and we are in a warming cycle now. The previous 8 global warming events happened even without our industry and machines that are supposedly causing the global warming.

[TexKan]

We will always have Chicken Littles tryin to make a name for themselves..... who knows someday it may be true............. BTW.....Exxon is ONE business......... it's gonna have to catch on more than that to be a trend....... everyone else is just gonna pass it by....... trust me that won't make me pay more for Exxon gas.............. I'm still goin to racetrack........