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Old 07-22-2008, 03:10 AM
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not at all, but only for the reason KONQ mentioned.
OK, Thanks! I just couldn't see a "nonsmoking" casino making it any easier for it to succeed.

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Old 07-22-2008, 07:00 AM
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Gotta be careful what you wish for. This article from the Google ad. Snowball effect?

We know how "they" (lobbyists) are. Give them an inch and they will stick their dislikes right up your a$$.


"If we pass laws forcing smokers to change their behavior “for their own good,” we need to ask: Where do we stop? Do we pass laws against smoking in private homes? Against frying food indoors (which also releases known carcinogens into the air)? Eating the wrong kinds of food? Eating too much? Weighing too much? Drinking too much (and not just when driving)? Exercising too little? Should we ban other risky behavior, such as skydiving, bungee-jumping, or riding motorcycles? How about drinking more than one cup of coffee each day?"



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Old 07-22-2008, 07:36 AM
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Gotta be careful what you wish for. This article from the Google ad. Snowball effect?

We know how "they" (lobbyists) are. Give them an inch and they will stick their dislikes right up your a$$.


"If we pass laws forcing smokers to change their behavior “for their own good,” we need to ask: Where do we stop? Do we pass laws against smoking in private homes? Against frying food indoors (which also releases known carcinogens into the air)? Eating the wrong kinds of food? Eating too much? Weighing too much? Drinking too much (and not just when driving)? Exercising too little? Should we ban other risky behavior, such as skydiving, bungee-jumping, or riding motorcycles? How about drinking more than one cup of coffee each day?"



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Just scaremongering at its best.

Smoking bans aren't for the smoker's own good. It's for the good of the people the smokers don't care if they kill by polluting them with their habbit.
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There are some states, or areas/cities at least, that do not allow smoking in any public area. IE: restaurants, theaters, bars, bowling alleys, clubs, parks during concerts, anything.... Cousins live in Colorado and they tell me the whole state is that way. Being a nonsmoker myself, I'd love it! I hate sitting down to eat or trying to dance somewhere and not being able to open my eyes or enjoy the music because of the billowing clouds of smoke stinging them so badly.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:53 AM
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It is a sad, sad day for local businesses. Especially if you are in the bar & grill business.
I doubt if too many places go out of business. SMokers still have to eat...they just have to go somewhere else to smoke.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:15 AM
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Did you read any of the article ?? Any study can be manipulated by whomever funds the study including the one posted.

Unless something is an absolute, it is subject to a whole litany of interpretation.

You have fed into the "I am being harmed by second hand smoke", and therefore smokers don't care that they are killing me, . I believe (because I am a smoker) "mountains out of molehills". When groups are singled out as horrible monsters, without absolutes that poses a danger in itself.

Well its nasty and it stinks.... step back out of my bubble. Your clothes reek. Step back out of my bubble and step into the "fresh air", and take a deep breath of the fires in California, volcano dust, gases from the ocean floor, oil production, plastics, so on and so forth ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Some are acts of God. The point is there is not100% proof of the dangers of second hand smoke from tobacco.

Pollution from all sources are in the great outdoors. To be 100 % sure your health is being destroyed by smokers is itself scare mongering, influenced by whichever study you choose to believe. Because a person finds it offensive, they want to agree with reports that lean to their opinions.

I think its pretty sad that there are smoking bans in the great outdoors...such as stadiums. What is wrong with smoking section on the top bleachers, or anywhere outside, that is off limits now .... Jeeze

I agree smokers need to be mindful of non smokers. There should always be segregation, where a person has a choice and the business has a choice... What is wrong with a smoking section, if it is well ventilated and the business owner wants to go to the expense of installation. Folks then have a choice of their own and not government interpretation influenced by those who would label smokers as "terrorists" killing you softly with their smoke
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Well said JW. I'd rep ya but I got to spread some around

It falls of deft ears tho. This is the same people who fall for the global warming scare.
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Wordie

Did you read any of the article ?? Any study can be manipulated by whomever funds the study including the one posted.

Unless something is an absolute, it is subject to a whole litany of interpretation.

You have fed into the "I am being harmed by second hand smoke", and therefore smokers don't care that they are killing me, . I believe (because I am a smoker) "mountains out of molehills". When groups are singled out as horrible monsters, without absolutes that poses a danger in itself.

Well its nasty and it stinks.... step back out of my bubble. Your clothes reek. Step back out of my bubble and step into the "fresh air", and take a deep breath of the fires in California, volcano dust, gases from the ocean floor, oil production, plastics, so on and so forth ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Some are acts of God. The point is there is not100% proof of the dangers of second hand smoke from tobacco.

Pollution from all sources are in the great outdoors. To be 100 % sure your health is being destroyed by smokers is itself scare mongering, influenced by whichever study you choose to believe. Because a person finds it offensive, they want to agree with reports that lean to their opinions.

I think its pretty sad that there are smoking bans in the great outdoors...such as stadiums. What is wrong with smoking section on the top bleachers, or anywhere outside, that is off limits now .... Jeeze

I agree smokers need to be mindful of non smokers. There should always be segregation, where a person has a choice and the business has a choice... What is wrong with a smoking section, if it is well ventilated and the business owner wants to go to the expense of installation. Folks then have a choice of their own and not government interpretation influenced by those who would label smokers as "terrorists" killing you softly with their smoke
Giving you the benefit of the doubt. If there's a 50 50 chance your habbit is impacting me then you need to keep your habbit to yourself. How DARE you imply you have that 50% chance of harming me or my child.

If you can't control your addiction long enough to sit through a game or a meal then you need to taxe some time and think about your motives for trying to keep polluting me with it.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:24 AM
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I would not dream of hurting you, your family, or anyone else with my habit. If you were in my home I would go outside and smoke if I couldn't control my habit..(which I can) I do go to places where it is banned ....I have no problem..

Now if you stepped outside and had a problem with me smoking, then we would probably have to break out the studies.......LOL

My study vs your study
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It is a sad, sad day for local businesses. Especially if you are in the bar & grill business.
Smoking is banned now in all public places here, including pubs and restaurants - it's GREAT!! Clean air and no smoke wafting over you impregnating your clothes and spoiling the enjoyment of your meal or drink. Should have happened years ago!
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