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Traffic Light At San Jose St. And Central

Discussion in 'Dodge City & Ford County Politics' started by Mike B., Jun 12, 2017.

  1. Mike B.
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    Mike B. Gold Member

    I'll check around and try to find out why.
     
  2. Made in the USA
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    Made in the USA Gold Member

    Why what?? Why do we need this stupid light??? There can be ZERO traffic coming from San Jose or the Mall, and it still will turn Red on you and stay that way forever! I don't see a need for this light. The only time I could maybe see a need for a light is around late afternoon when people are going to the St. Mary's complex for YMCA programs. And then, there are other ways to get in to the YMCA. There seems to be several various traffic lights around Dodge City that need to be adjusted or synchronized. They have sensors, but they change when no traffic is even coming. Either that, or they are not synchronized so that you have to stop at every single one of them!
     
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  3. Detector
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    Detector Gold Member

    I'm beginning to think the person who sets the timers on the Dodge City traffic lights is special Ed. No common sense at all.

    Then it could be he is being directed/misdirected by some pea brain above him.
     
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  4. Jafo
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    Oh the lights are set for standard time, not daylight savings, lol
     
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  5. Detector
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    Detector Gold Member

    LOL that I can believe!
     
  6. empires228
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    The last several times I've been to the mall it was a complete ghost town and you can get prime parking without an issue.
     
  7. Jafo
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    Oh boy just what you need, prime parking to nothing! lmao
     
  8. Mike B.
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    This is what I was told "...It was a request from the owners of the Mall when they were looking to locate the McDonalds on the property. McDonalds had a few requests for improvements i.e. center turn lane and I think the controlled intersection. They also requested a Community Improvement District which was approved to help pay for the improvements in the area, they are the only business participating in the district even though it helped other businesses like the ones in the Mall and Wendys. Hopefully it also will help to develop the area as larger chain stores and restaurants want to be located near a controlled intersection..."

    My response..."...To be honest, I don't believe the light improves traffic flow or makes driving in that area any safer. However, I do understand why businesses would want the city to pay to have one put in..."

    IMHO....it was a waste of money to put in a stop light where none was needed. If anything, the light impedes traffic flow. Are far as safety...When was the last time there was a traffic accident at that intersection?
     
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  9. empires228
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    There is no bringing back the mall. It isn't managed by a company that deals in commercial leasing, the building is in bad shape, two of the four anchors are in danger of defaulting on loans, the property is outdated with cracked and mismatched floors, a nearly constantly broken fountain, and a vacant store that flat out has shag carpet, and we know from stores like Hallmark and Christopher and Banks, especially Hallmark, that the outrageous rent in the property isn't justifiable with the relatively low foot traffic. The only way chain tenants will look at the area is if you level the property and start over. The only thing that I enjoy about the mall these days is the vintage 60's Sears sign hiding on the side of the building.
     
  10. whatever
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    As a current mall tenant, looking as hard as we can to move out I can attest to the fact that the place is a total dump. The rent is sky high, and they as landlords take care of NOTHING.
     
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  11. empires228
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    And a big problem the mall faces is that there is a lot of other highly visible real estate available, actually, more visible since the mall laks exterior signage for any of the non-anchor tenants. The haze mall in the Hutchinson Mall have both erected signs that can feature interior tenants in the last few years.

    The problem is is that I feel like the landlords over at Comanche Plaza aren't much better than the landlords at Village Square Mall. The only problem is that most of the available visible commercial space in Dodge is large. The most obvious examples being the remaining portion of the old Gibson's, Gibson's Pharmacy, the remainder of the old Alco next to True Value (I've had people tell me that the building is in use, but it's marketed as being "for sale"), The mattress hub space next to Hobby Lobby, the ALCO/Office Depot building, and Hastings. If Rue 21 goes under, then that leaves a sizable space open in Garden and Dodge, and both Sears Holdings and the unrelated Sears Hometown and Outlet Stores are expected to go under soon, which would leave a big hole in Garden City, but would leave another decent hole in Dodge as well. Sears Canada is preparing to file for bankruptcy, and while the American corporation isn't their primary owner and operator anymore, the US stores can't be far behind.

    In other news, Mead Lumber seems to be worried about the prospect of Sutherlands coming to town. To be honest, if you're a business that can be run out of town by the mediocre Sutherlands, you were probably barely functioning as a business as it is! ProBuild in GC made sure to not make the same mistakes Mead did in GC when Home Depot came to town, and now they're holding their own against Menards.
     
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  12. Jafo
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    Well the way to fix the mall is easy, when the roof over the common area collapses due to lack of up keep, you put out a press release stating it is a planed renovation to convert to a walking mall, all of the mindless dwebes, city council and chamber of Commerce will support that , then remove the old roof ,advertise the improvement and the masses will come.
     
  13. empires228
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    Village Square Mall has an issue that no other operating mall in the state has. The mostly vacant lower concourse. You could easily yank off the roof in Emporia, Liberal, Hays, Pittsburg, Salina, Manhattan, Hutchinson, White Lakes Mall, and even Towne West, but Village Square Mall has the unique issue of having a basement, something it only shared with Indian Springs Mall in Kansas City, Kansas, and that mall was torn down months ago after being vacant for years. It would even be easier to try to convert Towne East, West Ridge, and Oak Park Mall into an open air mall. Indian Springs, Metcalf South, and Village Square are the only three properties that would really cause a headache in the conversion, and two of the three have been demolished over the past 12 months. Mid State Mall in Salina and the old Wichita Mall on Harry Street in Wichita were both turned into strip malls, but again, Village Square has that problematic basement.

    To turn it into a strip mall, one would have to keep the mall concourse intact between the front doors and the theater to leave access to the basement and the theater, which is similar what they did with Ward Parkway center in Kansas City. They converted the entire lower level (mall was designed in a way so that the lover level had its own exterior entrance, like how the east side of Towne East takes you into the second floor of the mall while the west takes puts you on the first) and half of the upper level into a strip mall, and left a small mall area to connect the Target Store to a large AMC Movie Theater. Then the rest of the mall could be subdivided for larger tenants like Ross and Dick's and still have space for stores like Hibbett, Bath & Body, Maurices, and Buckle. Leasing the basement would still be problematic seeing as it hasn't been able to thrive even in better times.
     
  14. Jafo
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    Just put awnings over the stairway and escalator, then it would be so unique all of the impotent people would shop their . and if it rained to much then you have a spa. Down stairs, clothing optional of course.
     
  15. ChooPaKaToo
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    Maybe the mall should flirt with Dillons, and invite them to put a marketplace store in.. save that poor college corner from losing grass.

    :derpina::ahahahaha:
     
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  16. THE COMMANDER
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    There was nothing wrong with north Central to begin with and to then shoehorn in this traffic light was utterly ridiculous.

    The only place in town that desperately needs a light in my estimation is the Comanche/6th Ave intersection. This intersection has had a number of wrecks over the years and it has only gotten worse as drivers seem to have forgotten on the proper method of yielding to the appropriate vehicle to their right. The only way to solve this battle of wits is with a traffic control.

    The light should work during the day but be set to blinking yellow say after 7 or 8pm. However, at 6 or 7am when people begin to go to work and school, the intersection controls should activate.

    The City cannot say they don't have the parts for it. They decommissioned the inspection traffic control at Spruce and Central. Why not just move the control over to Comanche?

    And take the annoying San Jose light out while they're at it!
     

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