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Old 11-08-2005, 10:04 AM
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I heard a solution on uninsured / unliscensed last month on a talk show. Blame the car. That's right

That's not too far from a great idea.
A nice way to generate piles of cash would be to temporarily seize the vehicle of anyone operating w/o a valid D.L. or Ins.
Not just tow, seize.
Make the Reg. owner provide proof of current Ins. before releasing said vehicle.
Also, on top of the normal fine, require uninsured drivers to pay an administrative fee of $250 fee that would go to a "Safer roads" program.
These funds could be used for roadway inprovements, Carseat/Ins. checklanes and other city roadway needs.
If Jose don't pay, hold cars for a 180 days, then sell.

As far as Ins. is concerned, I feel it's way past a simple fix.
It's like the war on drugs, you throw a few bucks that way, but deep down inside you're never gonna make a difference.
Illegals, in places like Dodge sevre a purpose, we all know what it is but nothing is done about it.
And we all know why.
It's been rehashed on the original Dodge Board, DCT & now here.
Nothing's changed.



Profiling isn't wrong, it's common sense

Preach on brother Fred....
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That's not too far from a great idea.
A nice way to generate piles of cash would be to temporarily seize the vehicle of anyone operating w/o a valid D.L. or Ins.
Not just tow, seize.
Make the Reg. owner provide proof of current Ins. before releasing said vehicle.
Also, on top of the normal fine, require uninsured drivers to pay an administrative fee of $250 fee that would go to a "Safer roads" program.
These funds could be used for roadway inprovements, Carseat/Ins. checklanes and other city roadway needs.
If Jose don't pay, hold cars for a 180 days, then sell.

As far as Ins. is concerned, I feel it's way past a simple fix.
It's like the war on drugs, you throw a few bucks that way, but deep down inside you're never gonna make a difference.
Illegals, in places like Dodge sevre a purpose, we all know what it is but nothing is done about it.
And we all know why.
It's been rehashed on the original Dodge Board, DCT & now here.
Nothing's changed.


I hate to ruin your day, but I agree with that.

Preach on brother Fred....

That was pretty funny; I'm sure it was a lucky one.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:10 PM
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The catch is that a vehicle's owner must have a driver's license in order to get liability insurance and the person must be legal to get a driver's license.
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:03 PM
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That's the whole point on "blaming the car" You STILL write a ticket to the person when they do the offense - but the third time the "car" is involed with whatever driver is in it (doesn't have to be the owner) - the car is gone. It's kind of a trickle down theroy. Course here in Texas we think a little different than most and we are REALLY weird along the coast..... LOL

This theory would sure put an end to lending your car out to just anyone. It also would end the "have a friend buy my car for me" attitude used to circumvent the system. If you aren't responsible enough to follow the rules it would only take losing just one car to an auction to decied that maybe it's cheaper to follow the rules and keep insurance ALL the time not just for retagging purposes.

It was just a thought that I heard on uninsured motorist issues here in Texas.
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As far as Ins. is concerned, I feel it's way past a simple fix.
It's like the war on drugs, you throw a few bucks that way, but deep down inside you're never gonna make a difference.
Illegals, in places like Dodge sevre a purpose, we all know what it is but nothing is done about it.
And we all know why.
It's been rehashed on the original Dodge Board, DCT & now here.
Nothing's changed. Spike

Man, I couldnt have said it better. Isnt it true. Reminds me of a song lyric by the stones/sympathy for the devil= "I shouted out who killed the Kennedy's, when after all it was you and me"
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I don't know, seems to me the 'blame the car' concept would only increase the problem. The reason we have such an illegal problem is because people are making money off them. Seizing their vehicles would only make more people making money off them being here and give them an excuse. We already hear all too often the excuse "You know what would happen to our economy if we kicked them out."

Also, most illegals drive cars that they can just dump and run when the situation calls for it. No big deal for them they just head down to the nearest Buy here pay here and get another one. I bought a car from one of these guys on south second and was amazed when I asked for all the paper work and was told I was the first person to ask for it. Apparently most don't bother to tag or title these disposable vehicles.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:25 AM
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Yeah, them cars are known as throwaways. Freind of mine sold one 3 different times. 1st guy ditched it after he was pulled over. Cops called the seller, he picked up car sold it again. 2nd guy put a stereo in it before he left it. The seller picks up car again takes the stereo out and sells it a third time. $$$ "Now thats how you do it", he tells me.
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Originally Posted by Fred Sanford
Profiling isn't wrong, it's common sense.
Exactly: If you have limited time and resources like our police do...then they HAVE to profile. If they have time to pull over say 15 cars a day, would you rather have them pull over 15 cars that may lead to an arrest or 15 cars that are diverse, IE: the littel old ladie's. The police in Dodge have no time to be proactive so they have to be reactive due to all the crime. They need to spend their time wisely so they MUST profile to a point.

Look at it this way: If you are in a major airport getting ready to board a flight and out of the 200 passengers they can check 15 because they have limited resources and limited time. Do you want them checking the profiled people or the 90 year old lady? Most of the terror attacks we hear about are committed by people of Mid-Eastern decent so obvioulsy those would be the one's profiled. For you people that think this is wrong...think about if your child was getting on that plane....what would you say. Check the old lady or profile?
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Yep, and cops DO profile. They just can't do it in a way that you can tell. I have no problem with that.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Sanford
That's right! I miss the good ol' days when Wyatt Earp walked into the Longbranch Saloon guns blazing, and when Spike and Cap'n D could summarily piss pound illegal Mexicans outside local bars.
Oh yeah gonna have to give a point for that, Fred
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