Court ponders police chase liability

[booger]

Let's take these ideas on step further. Heck, we don't need an arrest policy either. Where does it go, where will it end, liberalism forever.

[Flying Dutchman]

This should come as no surprise to anybody, this is where our society has come too. We blame McDonalds and sue them for our kids being fat, when we are the ones buying them the food and getting it for them. We blame McDonalds for having their coffee to hot, instead of the idiot who put the cup in their lap to begin with. We blame Twinkies for murder, car manufacturers for making gas hogs.......hell, we make it more of a sin and health risk to go after a person smoking outside a resteraunt instead of making sure the cook washes his hands after wiping his ass and cooking our food. So now people want to blame the police for chasing someone, instead of blaming the person being chased.
Sad world we live in.

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

So now people want to blame the police for chasing someone, instead of blaming the person being chased.

Then it should really PO you that this story is about the guy causing the chase and getting hurt trying to blame it on the police.

This one even PO's me.

[Flying Dutchman]

Actually, it doesn't piss me off at all. If you look at what this case is actually about instead of what is "spinned" as, it is a good case. Wether the officer should have been chasing him is not the question, what is the question is wether the action of the officer causing him to lose control was unreasonable
force. In a nutshell, yes it was. Was it wrong, no it wasn't. It was a crap shoot, either the car would spin out and stop or it would lose control and wreck. You cannot argue that the crash happened because of the manuever, it did and the guy got hurt because of it. Should the city pay, yes it should and it should have a budget set up to pay for these things. Was the officer wrong and should they quit using the practice, no on both counts.

I'd rather see every single criminal with a car get away before one single innocent bystander get killed or injured because they were being chased.

So would I. I would also rather see every single guilty person get away before one single person went to jail. I would also rather see a couple of extra zero's tacked on to my paycheck. Unfortunately, those are all wishes and if wishes were horses then beggers would ride. Law enforcement already has to fight crime with one hand tied behind their back. I am not willing, nor would I encourage, tying the other hand also.

[spike52]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

Actually, it doesn't piss me off at all. If you look at what this case is actually about instead of what is "spinned" as, it is a good case. Wether the officer should have been chasing him is not the question, what is the question is wether the action of the officer causing him to lose control was unreasonable
force. In a nutshell, yes it was. Was it wrong, no it wasn't. It was a crap shoot, either the car would spin out and stop or it would lose control and wreck. You cannot argue that the crash happened because of the manuever, it did and the guy got hurt because of it. Should the city pay, yes it should and it should have a budget set up to pay for these things. Was the officer wrong and should they quit using the practice, no on both counts.




So would I. I would also rather see every single guilty person get away before one single person went to jail. I would also rather see a couple of extra zero's tacked on to my paycheck. Unfortunately, those are all wishes and if wishes were horses then beggers would ride. Law enforcement already has to fight crime with one hand tied behind their back. I am not willing, nor would I encourage, tying the other hand also.

Good post Dutchie..

[TexKan]

I'm glad you caught the drift of that article Dutchie - I was beginning to think no one would!

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

Actually, it doesn't piss me off at all. If you look at what this case is actually about instead of what is "spinned" as, it is a good case. Wether the officer should have been chasing him is not the question, what is the question is wether the action of the officer causing him to lose control was unreasonable
force. In a nutshell, yes it was. Was it wrong, no it wasn't. It was a crap shoot, either the car would spin out and stop or it would lose control and wreck. You cannot argue that the crash happened because of the manuever, it did and the guy got hurt because of it. Should the city pay, yes it should and it should have a budget set up to pay for these things. Was the officer wrong and should they quit using the practice, no on both counts.

So you're saying that if I'm a terrible driver and I keep causing accidents that kill or harm people that it's OK for me to keep driving as long as I can keep insurnace to pay for the damages?

See I don't think the city should have to pay ANYTHING to this person. It's the same as if you are breaking into my house and you get hurt on something and sue me - in that instance you should NOT be able to collect damages against me eve if I'm grossly negligent. If you are breaking the law you give up those rights.

This guy was running from the cops and so he made that choice.

If he would have taken out someone who had nothing to do with it then the cops and he should pay the damages.

Cops pursuing, at high speeds, someone for a traffic violation are showing off how badass they think they are.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

So you're saying that if I'm a terrible driver and I keep causing accidents that kill or harm people that it's OK for me to keep driving as long as I can keep insurnace to pay for the damages?

See I don't think the city should have to pay ANYTHING to this person. It's the same as if you are breaking into my house and you get hurt on something and sue me - in that instance you should NOT be able to collect damages against me eve if I'm grossly negligent. If you are breaking the law you give up those rights.

This guy was running from the cops and so he made that choice.

If he would have taken out someone who had nothing to do with it then the cops and he should pay the damages.

Cops pursuing, at high speeds, someone for a traffic violation are showing off how badass they think they are.

Ya had me until the last line, then you waffled....

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by lurker

Ya had me until the last line, then you waffled....

That's how you spin it. I make no secret that I believe that most cops seem to believe that they are better than the people they serve.

The ones who take "to serve and protect" seriously are out there and I'd apologize to them for this but they are too few and far between.

Take it for what you think it's worth or not.

[lurker]

"Would you like jelly or preserves with that?" ..any liberal artz major.