Plates

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by TexKan

....Harrasin him over shit on his property or anything else won't help your car get fixed. Besides............ it's evil in itself to seek revenge rather than just plain justice.

I think the point Tat2 is making is this clown ain’t running legal on anything he drives. Dealer plates, expired plates, repeated temporary permits, etc.

I’m going to take a guess that he ain’t got insurance on anything in his driveway and his employer, the dealer, is helping him skirt the insurance. The car that hit her had dealer plates at the time and that’s who I’d go after, the dealer.

[TexKan]

I know what she's doin but the truth is it only matters bout the car that hit her - the rest don't have anything to do with the it. My suggestion is to leave it alone (before she gets arrested for messin with him) focus on the issue and get her car fixed. The dealer may be liable but the dealer wasn't driving the car. Did the guy get a ticket? The water was just gettin muddy with all the cars, tags, garages, that really had nothing to do with the original wreck and whose responsible.

[FuzzmanKs]

Originally Posted by TexKan

Perhaps they are bonded. Do yall have that? I know UTMB doesn't carry insurance on thier vehichles - they carry bonds. Does Ks have that too? It' an option (Ithink) in Tx but someone is bound to be responsible. So wat's the update TaT?

Same for Kansas. Technically you (any KS vehicle owner) don't have to have an insurance policy from an insurance company. You can have a Liability Certificate...meaning if you have the $$$ set aside for any furture liability and have a issued certificate to prove it, you have complied with KS law.

But it still works the same. If you have a 'crash' you MUST provide proof of Financial Responsibilty to the investigating agency (or if none, to the other party involved in the crash).

[TexKan]

Then if there is a police report of the accident there should be proof of Financial responsibilty on record??? That seems simple to me.

[tat2me82]

Originally Posted by TexKan

WHAT??? That's insane! Unless he was supposed to have the car back and didn't. This just sounds all wrong. Somethin is missin.

On another note - did they ticket this guy? Is the police report on the accident or the expired / non esistant tags on vehicles? Ya need to stay focused on the issue - your car is damaged cause of him suposedly. Harrasin him over shit on his property or anything else won't help your car get fixed. Besides............ it's evil in itself to seek revenge rather than just plain justice.

The tags he had when he wrecked into me were dealership tags so no tickets were given. It irks me that the owner of the dealership doesn't want to fix my car because they feel he shouldn't have been driving around on those dealership tags (she the owner said that was his blazer and he was responsible for getting his own plates and insurance) , yet he's had a few other dealership tags on that blazer, and a truck that has recently appeared w/ the dealership tags... If the owner is so concerned than why is he still driving around w/ their tags??


Something is missing, or I should say not adding up. Their ins doesn't want to pay because his name is not on the insurance, yet it was a dealership tag from where he works. Owner doesn't want to pay because he (guy who ran into me) was supposed to be trading his vehicle off for the blazer (the one that hit me) but no papers were drawn up yet. sooooooooooooooo what all that tells me is that since no papers were drawn up the blazer was still the dealerships, since he was driving their vehicle w/ their dealership plates, their responsible (according to me) but for some odd reason their insurance doesn't see it that way.

[retired]

Tat2
If you feel the officer did not do the accident report correctly you need to contact his supervisor.

I know Officer Strader and he told me he spoke to you at work and he did agree with you in the end that you were not probably there but still had to let you know what the guy said or he would not have been doing his job.
Officer Strader is a traffic minded officer and I know if you call him in reference to the illegal tags on the street he will try to cite the driver for illegal tags if he legally can.

It is best to catch this person driving because more can be done to him.

Officer Strader works monday-wednesday from 5pm to 5 am.

[TexKan]

The way I see it is - He is responsible - for his actions. Usually when you test drive a car - which is basically what he was doin - your insurance covers you. Kinda like a rental I thought.

I have never heard not giving a ticket (if warrented) due to whose damn tag is on a car. The tag isn't getting the ticket - the driver is and if he was in the wrong - then a ticket should have been given. If you both were wrong then I know sometimes they don't give tickets cause it suggests wrong doing and they don't feel it's right to ticket one when clearly both are to blame for a common accident. It's a favor they do ya ( I know lots like to think they never get a favor).............. saves on fightin and insurance rates.

I still say - somethin ain't addin up to me. So neither of ya got a ticket???? He clearly backed into you and you were headed the right direction on the right side of the street? This is all due to "dealer tags"???? I think ya need to go talk to the chief and find out what the deal is. Lots of rumor and assumtions won't clear this up for ya. If the investigation on the accident is still open they can still issue him a ticket I think. I know down here tickets are sometimes not exactly written at the scene. First ya gotta know what happened and then ya write - unless it's just obvious. The "dealer tag" is the statement that is worrisome to me - I think it would worry the chief as well. Follow up!!!! Don't spend all your time arguin with the insurance company - I think that's what your company gets paid to do . They will play batmitton with you all day if ya let em. The dealership is ultimately responsible tho I think. They can recoup thier money from the driver after they pay your car damages. Got your estimates yet?????

[tat2me82]

ticket for what???

Strader wasn't the one who did the police report for the accident he was the one who did the "harassment charge" my neighbors called in. A police officer told me they weren't going to be able to do anything about the driver driving around on all these plates unless they see him driving around on them. The blazer apparently has license plates (expired in may) registered to the guy that hit me. Officer said if he leaves the drive way in the blazer w/ out that tag on there than to call them and they can stop him, other than that the vehicle is on private property and they can't do anything about it.

sheesh this story is getting confusing even for me lol

[TexKan]

Did you not say he hit you with a dealer car? One he was gonna buy but didn't after he wrecked it in to you? Or did you get plowed with his blazer? Hell I'm tryin my best to follow but you got all this other nonsense with spyin for plates on cars that are in garages and such.......... girl you are just to covert for me - one issue at a time.

My point is take care of the issue - don't worry bout his tagless cars - get yours fixed first - then make his life unhappy if ya can do it without gettin yourself in trouble. I know he (the officer) said he would ticket you if you were on his property and I got that - but I'm talkin bout the ticket that the fella should of gotten but didn't cause the car he was test drivin had dealer tags.............. I thought that's what you were saying. You sure get in some messes!!! LOL LOL.......................... I can't keep up either!

[Highwayman]

Yeah, this thread has been getting confusing. I’ve went over the whole thread again and here’s my observations and comments. Some quotes are bits and pieces pulled from different posts.

Tat2 ... my neighbor across the street backed into me while I was already in the street. … My street is N and S, I was facing North getting ready to put it in drive when he backed out of his driveway (which is directly across the street from my driveway) and he hit me.

Correct me if I’m wrong here Tat2 but it sounds like you had just backed into the street right before the other guy backed out and hit you. If that’s the case then the cop probably didn’t issue any tickets because he didn’t see it happen and he wasn’t clear on who was at fault.

Tat2 …. He told me he didn't have insurance. The plates that he had on at the time of the accident were dealership plates which were owned by a small dealership here in town. He works there and was supposed to be trading off his car for this blazer (the one that hit me) but no papers were drawn up or finalized at that time.

I don’t find it odd that papers weren’t drawn up yet.

The insurance thing is really the stickler here because nobody wants to cough up the $1600 to fix Tat2’s car. If a person has a car with insurance and buys another car the next car is covered for a short time automatically. Without the papers being drawn up it’s still the dealer’s car and the dealer is responsible. More on this later.

Tat2 … I've seen 3 different plates on his vehicle 2 of them being expired…. they have 2 vehicles in the driveway w/ no plates…. I showed her the picture I had w/ 2 vehicles not having tags… I've seen 2 different cars there both w/ 30 days tags…

While the other cars were not involved in the accident all this tag business on several cars is a flag that this guy isn’t running legal on most if not all of his cars. Including the one he hit Tat2 with.

Tat2 … The owner of dealership claims this guy was trading his vehicle for this blazer that hit me, but no papers had been drawn up yet. … as for the dealership, she said she was advised to file theft charges against the driver… the owner of the dealership doesn't want to fix my car because they feel he shouldn't have been driving around on those dealership tags (she the owner said that was his blazer and he was responsible for getting his own plates and insurance) …

OK, hold on here. This is a big time run around by the dealer. She can't keep her stories straight. First the guy was trading for the Blazer and then it’s his Blazer? Which is it? It doesn’t matter if he bought the car later, it matters who owned the car at the time of the accident. As for the advice the dealer got about claiming the car was stolen that sounds like advice about how to weasel out of responsibility for the damage.

In summary, this guy is pulling shady crap with several cars and the dealer is helping him with D plates and 30 day permits. It sounds like they both are doing things that would be more than just a little embarrassing. Again, I think someone needs to lean on this dealer real hard. The punk that hit you likely has little to lose but the dealer has a dealership to lose. Most crooks are stupid and I think that dealer would have been smart to cut you a check for $2000 to cover your $1600 damage and your inconvenience with a lot of butt kissing and apologies with the hope that you would go away and not screw with them.