Gang violence in Lions Park??

[Zeb]

Just my opinion,

Well that pretty much sums up the mentality of an LEO. I am god, everybody owes me something.

I can honestly say a LEO has never helped me out EVER!!!! I owe you nothing!! You chose your job and I chose mine.

I was in a situation like tee's sometime back. Ebay rip-off. I called the DCPD because I was told to notify them first by different websites. They blew me off saying they couldn't do anything. WHAT? More like no one wanted to do anything. With the little help of local LE and the Boulder PD is all it would have take to get this guy busted. I had traced this guy down all but his real name, and had it setup for them (boulder) to just be in the frt pickup office when he came to sign someone elses name. Easy right? not if LE is DCPD and they refuse to help the BPD. They were clueless and could have cared less. That's my impression of of ALL LEO's. Boulder PD isn't any better as they refused to do anything because the sale they claim happened in DC and was a DC problem.

[spike52]

Originally Posted by dustinwadams5

So who determines what the public should know? Should any person be able to make that choice? I agree with Army and Lurker on this, we should be entitled to information because some of that info could make a major difference to one of us THANKLESS CIVILIANS!

Who?
A guy named Mr. Common Sense.
Would you like to read the gory details of a 9 y.o. getting raped?
How about when John Q. Public gets popped for D.U.I., but then later
is found not guilty. Is this really news?
Somethings are better left out of the public.

[sunny beach]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

If you were to go to the Dodge City Crimestoppers page....

you will see that we apparently haven't had any crime since March...

March of 2006 according to your link!!!

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by spike52

Who?
A guy named Mr. Common Sense.
Would you like to read the gory details of a 9 y.o. getting raped?
How about when John Q. Public gets popped for D.U.I., but then later
is found not guilty. Is this really news?
Somethings are better left out of the public.

ANYTHING the police do is public information. Details aren't always needed for an ongoing investigation but the big picture is ALWAYS an open book.

If someone is arrested and then found not guilty that's definately news. I want to know who messed up and why.

[hoarsewhisperer]

I think this thread got a little off track. I dont believe lurker thought we were owed any info, he just made a statement of rumor and inquired if anyone else had heard the same

[spike52]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

ANYTHING the police do is public information.

Yes, that's already been addressed, twice.

spike:
"-The Globe "used" to have someone come by everyday (not sure if this is still correct) and look at all the reports filed by the PD. And the info. given was just pg. 1 of the report.."

radiodOOd:
"the front page of a Kansas Standard Offense Report is open public record."

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

If someone is arrested and then found not guilty that's definately news. I want to know who messed up and why.

I couldn't imagine having the time or desire..

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by spike52

I couldn't imagine having the time or desire..

I want to know why the cops messed up an arrest so I can be prepared if it happens to me. Also if the same thing happens repeatedly is it the same cop doing the same thing over and over or is it a department wide mess up.

Or is it something another public official did that messed up the prosecution...

Any number of reasons why this is news.

[notyoubob]

Originally Posted by spike52

Who?

Somethings are better left out of the public.

And who do you think should be the keeper of what the public should know? Me? You? Army?
IMO, give the public the info and trust them to decide what's important or what's BS. But don't let some yahoo decide that for others.

[NoLongerInRadioGuy]

[quote=Zeb;44011]Just my opinion,

Well that pretty much sums up the mentality of an LEO. I am god, everybody owes me something.

I can honestly say a LEO has never helped me out EVER!!!! I owe you nothing!! You chose your job and I chose mine.

...That's my impression of of ALL LEO's.[quote]

None of us think we are owed anything besides a paycheck and training to do our job to the best of our ability. No where did I imply that we are owed something by you or anyone else.

I am sorry you feel the need to classify every LEO based on the actions of one or a few. Do you do this with everyone? Get a bad meal at a steak house therefore never go out for a steak again? Computer crimes can be very tricky in the first place as to where the crime actually occurred. Some would day it is where the victim lives...others would say it is where the suspect lives...and others would even say it is where the item was purchased from. If someone used another person's ID to make a purchase, then Kansas says it is ID theft. If the person who is the rightful owner of the ID, or name, or whatever, lives in Dodge City, we would do the initial report, then follow up with the agency where the suspect (if there is one) lives. Obviously a DCPD officer has no jurisdiction in Boulder, so we cant go there to enforce any laws - we have to depend on the Boulder PD to interview and do follow up, then request a warrant if applicable.

You obviously have had bad experiences with LEOs and I apologize for that. Was it something you did wrong, or did you not think you got the attention you deserved? Was this on multiple ocassions or was this just the one incident you have had a bad experience with?

You are correct in saying I chose my job (though to me it is a career, not a job) and you chose yours. I have no idea what you do for a living, but I would assume it is in a field I know little or nothing about, and therefore would not think I have any right or power to tell you how to do your job. Many people think that LEOs can just do whatever they want to correct problems - in reality, we have rules and laws we also have to follow.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by spike52

-Did you ever think that there are people in power that don't want negative info. to get out, so that people will still come to visit your tourist trap town??

Spike, although I have no stats or evidence I feel that this is probably more of a reason than anyone would admit. It is something that probably can't be proven but it would make sense.

Originally Posted by spike52

-Yes, it is sad that you only get the dirty stuff from the DB. But please, don't make assumptions about the men/women who don't "read" about the dirt, but work to clean it up..

It's not about the "dirty stuff"...it's about the things happening in the community that would make said community unsafe. I think people NEED to be aware in order to be able to protect themselves. They cannot be aware if they don't know...