Tahah being charged with 1st Degree murder!

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by NoLongerInRadioGuy

What I cant understand...and I heard it all over the news tv stations this weekend....

People being charged with first degree "felony" murder....

Radio Guy, if you think that sounds weird, I saw a press report once saying someone was armed with a semi-automatic bolt action rifle and a semi-automatic revolver. You’ve got to love the media.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

..semi-automatic bolt action rifle...

Is that considered a rare collectors item? I want one!!!

[Made in the USA]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Is that considered a rare collectors item? I want one!!!

That gun is for guys with only one arm!

[dgirl]

I THOUGHT FIRST DEGREE WAS PREMEDITATED MURDER!

[pootsy]

It is DG. It is a more serious charge than 2nd degree, what he was going to be charged with at first.

[Flying Dutchman]

It also allows the prosecuter to go for the death penelty or the hard 40.

[FAM 49]

I thought Kansas got the "Hard 50" a couple of years ago?

[The Rev]

Originally Posted by dgirl

I THOUGHT FIRST DEGREE WAS PREMEDITATED MURDER!

"Pre-Meditated" is an aggravating factor which will carry weight in the sentencing phase of the trial. The "felony" part of the murder charge, as outlined before comes since Tahah was engaged in a Felony (burglary- by statute: 21-3715. Burglary. Burglary is knowingly and without authority entering into or remaining within any:

(a) Building, manufactured home, mobile home, tent or other structure which is a dwelling, with intent to commit a felony, theft or sexual battery therein;
(b) building, manufactured home, mobile home, tent or other structure which is not a dwelling, with intent to commit a felony, theft or sexual battery therein; or
(c) motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, railroad car or other means of conveyance of persons or property, with intent to commit a felony, theft or sexual battery therein.
Burglary as described in subsection (a) is a severity level 7, person felony. Burglary as described in subsection (b) is a severity level 7, nonperson felony. Burglary as described in subsection (c) is a severity level 9, nonperson felony. History: L. 1969, ch. 180, § 21-3715; L. 1989, ch. 92, § 21; L. 1991, ch. 33, § 28; L. 1992, ch. 298, § 44; L. 1993, ch. 291, § 74; July 1.)

The Statute for Murder in the First Degree, according to Kansas Statutes Annotated, reads as follows (also following are the sentencing guidelines, in response to the Hard 40 or Hard 50 statements previously in this thread):

21-3401. Murder in the first degree. Murder in the first degree is the killing of a human being committed:

(a) Intentionally and with premeditation; or
(b) in the commission of, attempt to commit, or flight from an inherently dangerous felony as defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and amendments thereto. Murder in the first degree is an off-grid person felony.

Tahah was originally charged with 2nd Degree Murder:

21-3402. Murder in the second degree. Murder in the second degree is the killing of a human being committed:

(a) Intentionally; or
(b) unintentionally but recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life. Murder in the second degree as described in subsection (a) is a severity level 1, person felony. Murder in the second degree as described in subsection (b) is a severity level 2, person felony.


21-4635. Sentencing of certain persons to mandatory term of imprisonment of 40 or 50 years or life without the possibility of parole; determination; evidence presented; balance of aggravating and mitigating circumstances. (a) Except as provided in K.S.A. 21-4622, 21-4623 and 21-4634 and amendments thereto, if a defendant is convicted of the crime of capital murder and a sentence of death is not imposed pursuant to subsection (e) of K.S.A. 21-4624, and amendments thereto, or requested pursuant to subsection (a) or (b) of K.S.A. 21-4624, and amendments thereto, the defendant shall be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.

(b) If a defendant is convicted of murder in the first degree based upon the finding of premeditated murder, the court shall determine whether the defendant shall be required to serve a mandatory term of imprisonment of 40 years or for crimes committed on and after July 1, 1999, a mandatory term of imprisonment of 50 years or sentenced as otherwise provided by law.
(c) In order to make such determination, the court may be presented evidence concerning any matter that the court deems relevant to the question of sentence and shall include matters relating to any of the aggravating circumstances enumerated in K.S.A. 21-4636 and amendments thereto and any mitigating circumstances. Any such evidence which the court deems to have probative value may be received regardless of its admissibility under the rules of evidence, provided that the defendant is accorded a fair opportunity to rebut any hearsay statements. Only such evidence of aggravating circumstances as the state has made known to the defendant prior to the sentencing shall be admissible and no evidence secured in violation of the constitution of the United States or of the state of Kansas shall be admissible. No testimony by the defendant at the time of sentencing shall be admissible against the defendant at any subsequent criminal proceeding. At the conclusion of the evidentiary presentation, the court shall allow the parties a reasonable period of time in which to present oral argument.
(d) If the court finds that one or more of the aggravating circumstances enumerated in K.S.A. 21-4636 and amendments thereto exist and, further, that the existence of such aggravating circumstances is not outweighed by any mitigating circumstances which are found to exist, the defendant shall be sentenced pursuant to K.S.A. 21-4638 and amendments thereto; otherwise, the defendant shall be sentenced as provided by law. The court shall designate, in writing, the statutory aggravating circumstances which it found. The court may make the findings required by this subsection for the purpose of determining whether to sentence a defendant pursuant to K.S.A. 21-4638 and amendments thereto notwithstanding contrary findings made by the jury or court pursuant to subsection (e) of K.S.A. 21-4624 and amendments thereto for the purpose of determining whether to sentence such defendant to death. History: L. 1994, ch. 341, § 6; L. 1999, ch. 164, § 15; L. 2004, ch. 102, § 4; July 1.

[TexKan]

Ya know it's just really sad when you look at how much consideration and wording the turds get when compared to what they gave their victim.

Her children would probably be grateful to just have one day with their mom - and the system argues over how much time he gets. To me if you confess that you did it - the next day there should be a hangin.

Just a waste of good money to give some a day in court, but it's what we do as a civilized society. I would like to be able to give the victim a day on earth to say goodbye to her children and family.

[The Rev]

That's why they call it a "Criminal" justice system. And as far as justice in the system....it's Just US in the system.