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Tigre · #**211** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 07:49 AM

Intact bullet was not recovered it was in two pieces. But does a bullet of that is shot from that calliber of a weapon normally go through something especially if it was shot at close range? As in exit wound? (just curious)

As far as papers go.......all i'm saying is whatever he received whether it be papers saying he was being investigated or what they said 2nd degree murder on them.

I don't know why he ran and no one would have said he was running if he hadn't made the stupid move to steal a vehicle. He was free to leave town and to leave the state as he pleased. To my knowledge noone was looking for him until the Colorado police department called and said we have someone here that says they are a possible murder suspect.

Believe me I'm as confused as you guys are on this thing i'm just not as quick to judge as some are

spike52 · #**212** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 07:54 AM

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So you agree that it was "circumtantial" proof?

Circumstantial evidence, yes.
So?

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Everything from the bullet to the gun was entered into evidence eventhough they didn't prove that the bullet came from that gun.

They couldn't, and DIDN'T have to.

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There was no balistic report but the pictures of the round were entered into evidence (your wrong Banyon) They didn't prove that it was infact a 270 rifle that was used. Infact they were looking for a smaller caliber weapon initially.

No bolt, no ballisitics.
They couldn't prove that a .270 was used, so they did the next best thing.
Load taped confession, push play.

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They did "Flying Dutchman" tell him they had found the bolt. In the same closet as the gun. I don't know about you but if I was trying to hide something I wouldn't put it in the same closet that I kept the guns in.

During the interrogation?
So, all that proves is Tahah isn't very bright.

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I don't know what happened.....I don't know why someone would confess if they didn't do it other than he had already been served paper saying that he was being investigated for second degree murder

Or, maybe he confessed b/c he was in fact the one who pulled the trigger.

Why does it feel like we're all just reposting the same facts...

357 mag · #**213** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 07:57 AM

Highwayman · #**214** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 07:59 AM

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Intact bullet was not recovered it was in two pieces. But does a bullet of that is shot from that calliber of a weapon normally go through something especially if it was shot at close range? As in exit wound? (just curious)....

It would depend on if it was a soft point or full metal jacket and if it hit a bone or just soft tissue.

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Why does it feel like we're all just reposting the same facts...

Because we are?

Highwayman · #**215** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 08:08 AM

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...No bolt, no ballisitics....

A replacement bolt could be fitted the test the rifling but I don’t know if rules of evidence allow for that.

If the bullet shattered on impact there would be no point.

Tigre · #**216** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 08:17 AM

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A replacement bolt could be fitted the test the rifling but I don’t know if rules of evidence allow for that.

If the bullet shattered on impact there would be no point.

I think there would be some point to it. Eventhough, you couldn't go by the markings on the casing because we know that the casing definately came from that gun, but I think i might prove the shape of the bullet. (maybe, I'm no detective) The bullet wasn't described as shattered but as fragmented into two pieces. Does this mean that there would still be no point?

Highwayman · #**217** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 08:45 AM

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I think there would be some point to it. Eventhough, you couldn't go by the markings on the casing because we know that the casing definately came from that gun, but I think i might prove the shape of the bullet. (maybe, I'm no detective) The bullet wasn't described as shattered but as fragmented into two pieces. Does this mean that there would still be no point?

I’d like to hear from one of the folks familiar with rules of evidence if having a gunsmith fit a replacement bolt would be considered tampering with evidence or not. Perhaps it’s not allowed.

Either way I don’t think it will constitute negligence on the part of the investigators and the lack of ballistics probably will hold up under appeal.

Tigre · #**218** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 08:51 AM

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I’d like to hear from one of the folks familiar with rules of evidence if having a gunsmith fit a replacement bolt would be considered tampering with evidence or not. Perhaps it’s not allowed.

Either way I don’t think it will constitute negligence on the part of the investigators and the lack of ballistics probably will hold up under appeal.

Thanks Highwayman, for not being judgmental. you've spoke your opinion but have not been hateful about it. I respect that.

I have no clue as to what would hold up in court and what wouldn't.

I'm trying to figure this thing out myself.

Thanks again!

wordsmythe · #**219** (**permalink**) 04-23-2008, 08:56 AM

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Thanks Highwayman, for not being judgmental. you've spoke your opinion but have not been hateful about it. I respect that.

I have no clue as to what would hold up in court and what wouldn't.

I'm trying to figure this thing out myself.

Thanks again!

Evidently everything they presented in court held up pretty well. Either that or this was the defence attorney's first rodeo.