Tahah being charged with 1st Degree murder!

[Tigre]

Originally Posted by Bubba

That is a really good point! I always leave town and steal a Hummer in Colorado and lead the police and/or highway patrol on a car chase to clear my head too.


[end sarcasm]

Really cause so do I. We should go together sometime!

[WILD BILL]

I was just wondering about one thing that hasn't been brought up so far here on the forum. I watched the video when it was played in court. When Tahah confessed on the video tape he had "accidentaly" shot into the back of Jones house he specifically said exactly where he had been standing in Jones back yard when he "made the shot". Even drew a map for the officer. If Tahah was making up his confession he shouldnt of known the path of the bullet, through the glass, and into Jones. Would he? I mean that was a pretty good guess if he was making it up! There is alot of back yard there and he could of told the Officer he was anywhere in the back yard.

When he tried to recant his confession in court, Tahah said he saw the broken window, blinds, and so on with his binoculars. He could easily know about these details because hes had access to all the evidence including photos before the trial started.

Isn't there an old saying, "The guilty fleeth when no man cometh." But the innocent lay still as lions". (or something like that)

God Bless the United States jury system!!

[Flying Dutchman]

Thats what i think those who believe he is innocent are forgetting.....the confession. They want to disregard it, but you can't. Without it then you have a good argument about evidence or lack there of. With the confession, everything fits. Finding him guilty on "words" would be bad, but they were HIS words. I am sorry, but the stretch you are trying to make about a coerced or confession made in duress just carries no weight here. His recounting the confession was worse for him because it looked and sounded like a total fabrication. If that would have been his first confession, and stuck to it, then you might have an argument....but it wasn't. And how did the KBI lie about the bolt? The residue? the pictures of the back of the house?

[banyon]

Originally Posted by Tigre

So you agree that it was "circumtantial" proof?

Everything from the bullet to the gun was entered into evidence eventhough they didn't prove that the bullet came from that gun. There was no balistic report but the pictures of the round were entered into evidence (your wrong Banyon) They didn't prove that it was infact a 270 rifle that was used. Infact they were looking for a smaller caliber weapon initially.

Huh? I don't think I ever claimed there was a ballistic report or proof that it came from the same gun. All I said was that they did enter the .270 rifle into evidence. I believe someone did testify it was consistent with, though not definitively from the same gun.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

I’d like to hear from one of the folks familiar with rules of evidence if having a gunsmith fit a replacement bolt would be considered tampering with evidence or not. Perhaps it’s not allowed.

Either way I don’t think it will constitute negligence on the part of the investigators and the lack of ballistics probably will hold up under appeal.

I really don't know the answer to this, but I will try to find out if I can remember.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by Tee

Did your attorney serve up a balistics expert that discounted the possibility that the weapon found was the murder weapon?

According to his website, he doesn't even do criminal law, let alone capital murder. He specializes in workmans comp and tort cases. Are you sure you had an adequate attorney? Has he ever defended someone charged with murder?

I dealt with him in a civil case and thought he was sloppy then. Watching him in court was pretty awful at times, but then again his hands were tied partially behind his back because Tahah insisted on changing his story and taking the stand when the attorney knew it was bad strategy.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by where's_the_evidence?

Absolutely my last post,

The KBI intentionally misled the jury on at least 3 points,
gunshot residue,
the bolt,
the pictures taken of the back of the house.

Intentionally misled how? Why didn't he bring up that pointin his defense or in cross-examination?

Originally Posted by where's_the_evidence?

Incidently the pictures taken of the back of the house were taken after Chris' testimony, they ran out of the court room and took them durning the lunch recess after the defense rested. Tell me they weren't worried about how the case was going at that point.

What were they supposed to do, Call Ms. Cleo ahead of the trial and somehow figure out what Tehah was going to change his story to so that they could avoid "looking worried" by gathering the photos that showed his story was made up (I looked again, when you say you can see the backyard, it has to mean all the way to the window and discern that it was broken) ?

Originally Posted by WTE

Closure......there will be no closure until a) Chris is found innocent b) there is proof based on real evidence and not evidence made to fit, that he did the crime.


Also, there is no greving here, friends and family are pissed. Convicted of a crime based soley on words without any evidence. Not supposed to happen in this country.

It didn't. You pretending that Exhibits 1-56 (I think) weren't presented doesn't mean that they weren't. It sounds like you have a problem with circumstantial evidence being used in courtrooms even though it has been used for hundreds of years. Is there a remote possibility that Chris just happened to not be able to report for duty that night, happened to keep his bullet as a memento, made up a confession for "closure", just coincidentally stole a Hummer and fled from police, was recently broken up with the victim and had made remarks about not being able to handle it, threw away his favorite shoes, two shells, and that the KBI framed him by misplacing a gun bolt and then covering it up and taking fake photos or damaging their own discs? Yeah it's possible. It's possible that my home will be struck by five meteorites tonight also. Is it reasonable to assume that all of those things are just innocent coincidences? Of course not.

[WizardofOz]

I was just wondering about one thing that hasn't been brought up so far here on the forum. I watched the video when it was played in court. When Tahah confessed on the video tape he had "accidentaly" shot into the back of Jones house he specifically said exactly where he had been standing in Jones back yard when he "made the shot". Even drew a map for the officer. If Tahah was making up his confession he shouldnt of known the path of the bullet, through the glass, and into Jones. Would he? I mean that was a pretty good guess if he was making it up! There is alot of back yard there and he could of told the Officer he was anywhere in the back yard.

I agree. It sounds a lot like the OJ book and "if I had done it" approach he used. In reality though, OJ did it but at least a jury rendered a guilty verdict this time around. Very tragic anyway you look at it. Man in prison for majority of his life, children with no mother, and people still trying to make sense of it all.

[88-31-10]

Me thinks that of all people, a cop would know about Miranda, right to keep silent, right to an attorney, etc. Armed with this knowledge, he still confessed to law enforcement on tape. Big mistake. Sounds like the nail in the coffin to me.

[blondemoments]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

I’d like to hear from one of the folks familiar with rules of evidence if having a gunsmith fit a replacement bolt would be considered tampering with evidence or not. Perhaps it’s not allowed.

Either way I don’t think it will constitute negligence on the part of the investigators and the lack of ballistics probably will hold up under appeal.

I don't know if that is tampering or not, but...

if they replaced the bolt and fired the gun to get the rifling, (and unless I'm mistaken) you would still need to match up the indention from the original firing pin which would be in the bolt that is missing.

oh boy, I can't wait to get jumped on because what the heck would a girl know about guns.