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Old 04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:19 AM
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The pathological liars believe thier own BS so they think they are telling the truth. So the pollygraph picks nothing up.

And the machine can be fooled if you know how to do it.

That's why they are not admitted into evidence.


The Polygraph is considered inadmissable because it's results are based upon opinion, not fact.
It has nothing to do with "fooling the machine"..
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:03 PM
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The Polygraph is considered inadmissable because it's results are based upon opinion, not fact.
It has nothing to do with "fooling the machine"..
The operator reads the machine and gives an opinion based on what they see. If the machine doesn't show indications that would change the operator's opinion then you've fooled the machine AND the operator.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:24 PM
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then how come I got arrested once because I would not submit to a Polygraph? I told the police to have the girl who fasely accused me to do it. I knew she was lying. Everyone was lying. In the end it was admitted.
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:04 PM
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then how come I got arrested once because I would not submit to a Polygraph? I told the police to have the girl who fasely accused me to do it. I knew she was lying. Everyone was lying. In the end it was admitted.
Failing to submit to a polygraph is not a criminal offense, surely you were arrested for an actual crime?
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:22 PM
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The operator reads the machine and gives an opinion based on what they see. If the machine doesn't show indications that would change the operator's opinion then you've fooled the machine AND the operator.

It's not that people are fooling the machine, more like the machines & measurements are not reliable.
Because of the unreliabilty, the courts & the scientific community, are hesitant to acknowledge it.
Why?
Because the tests could indicate innocent people as showing deception.
It's not an exact science like prints or DNA.

When you have time read United States v. Sheffer..
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
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Failing to submit to a polygraph is not a criminal offense, surely you were arrested for an actual crime?

They said that not doing the test admits guilt.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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They said that not doing the test admits guilt.
When I've seen it used it's usually as a reason to keep you OUT of jail. They have other evidence that amounts to probable cause, but are willing to reconsider if you pass the poly.

Then again, there are people who abuse stuff like this. I was tossed in the can to cool off one time when I was younger because I called a cop a name. I hadn't broken any laws, but he was right, I needed to chill the hell out.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:21 AM
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They said that not doing the test admits guilt.
Poots..
The polygraph is merely an interrogation tool.
If you're a suspect in a crime, the cops can tell you whatever they want to get the information they need..
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:24 AM
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Poots..
The polygraph is merely an interrogation tool.
If you're a suspect in a crime, the cops can tell you whatever they want to get the information they need..
That's why you never answer any questions until you are all lawyered up.
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