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Fact: The study found no statistically significant risk existed for non-smokers who either lived or worked with smokers. Fact: The only statistically significant number was a decrease in the risk of lung cancer among the children of smokers. Fact: The study found a Relative Risk (RR) for spousal exposure of 1.16, with a Confidence Interval (CI) of .93 - 1.44. In layman's terms, that means • Exposure to the ETS from a spouse increases the risk of getting lung cancer by 16%. • Where you'd normally find 100 cases of lung cancer, you'd find 116. <center>-But-</center> • Because the Confidence Interval includes 1.0, The Relative Risk of 1.16 number is not statistically significant.
__________________ Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed occasionally for the same reason. Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" The hard work of one will do more than the prayer of millions. Last edited by Bubba; 10-19-2006 at 10:23 PM. Reason: added Facts     |
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10-20-2006, 02:05 AM
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| I think they out to outlaw "farting", as it invades my right to fresh air!  If I wanted to live in a "Communist" country, ---------well, I wouldn't want to live in a communist country. Isn't that what living in a "free" country is supposed to mean. Freedom to make choices on your own without government interference???  |
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10-20-2006, 05:45 AM
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__________________ The wrong war fought for lies and deception, war without end, predatory lenders, homes taken, current recession, looming "depression," social security gutted, civil rights violated, and so much more... courtesy of the Republican party. President Obama USSC Justice Clinton It's just time to get it done. |
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10-20-2006, 05:47 AM
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__________________ Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed occasionally for the same reason. Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" The hard work of one will do more than the prayer of millions. |
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10-20-2006, 07:38 AM
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You have no more right to walk into a designated smoking establishment and demand they stop stop smoking than you do to walk into a biker bar and demand they play country music. If you are allergic to peanuts, don't go into an establish that serves them and demand the stop serving peanuts because it could kill little ole you! Sugar and fat are bad too, but should we outlaw them? If a business is designated as a smoking establishment by the choosing of their owner, you need to exercise your right in a free market society to chose a business that meets your demographic targeting criteria. This means, go to a non-smoking bar. Do you remember a long time ago when a woman went into a country club that was designated as "men only" and demanded that she be allowed to be a member? She felt it was her right to impose political correctness on the establishment regardless on their targeted demographic. We all know it is a violation of federal law to discriminate based upon gender, right? It went all the way to the supreme court and the court ruled that her right does not extend to establishments that target exclusive demographic or gender groups, and that she should simply go join a womens club as there are many of them. Free market society won, and political correctness as perpetuated by the overzealous PC crowd, lost. Where freedom of choice in a market society conflict with the political correctness movement, freedom to choose should always win out. If we invite government into our business to regulate who we can and cannot target, the momentum from such a movement could be disastrous. It's already happening.... Don't you remember when the PC crowd went after McDonald's for selling greasy foods? McDonald's quickly averted disaster by offering more alternative healthy choices on the menu. They shouldn't have to do this. "Caveat Emptor" As consumers, we are responsible for being informed, educated and we fuel the free market engine by the free choices we make in deciding whether to go into a business or not. It is this business model that we credit for making America the richest country in the world. This is the democratic system we point to when other countries come to us asking "whats your secret?" When we start deciding how a business should conduct their business, well we might just well throw out the whole free market business model and adopt that of the failing communist countries. The freedoms that fuel the free market society are much more important than your right to enjoy smoke free air in an establishment that you know prior to patronizing, to be a smoking establishment. Take that away and you have just pulled one spoke of many more to come from the free market business wheel. That's a dangerous path, my friend. I don't like breathing cigarette smoke while eating or drinking either, but I am glad I can take a step back and see the bigger picture as it concerns this movement to regulate businesses right to choose their target base. Did you ever see the movie Demolition Man? The difference between liberals and conservatives is; liberals turn to government to pass more laws to protect us from ourselves, conservatives think we need less laws, to protect us from government.
__________________ Never so much hatred, have I seen, as the vitriol that Obama agitates and incites in his devout following. |
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10-20-2006, 07:44 AM
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| If it were about the free market I'd likely agree with you but the people who's health is impacted by something others are doing is the problem I'm addressing. But we've smacked that horse enough. Since we don't agree I'll simply continue to exercise my right to petition my representatives to see thing my way and work toward the goals I want to see win out. I'm sure you will as well and when it's put to a vote we'll see which one wins out.
__________________ The wrong war fought for lies and deception, war without end, predatory lenders, homes taken, current recession, looming "depression," social security gutted, civil rights violated, and so much more... courtesy of the Republican party. President Obama USSC Justice Clinton It's just time to get it done. |
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10-20-2006, 07:46 AM
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 what Tee saidJust about everything anyone does has the potential to impact someone else's health. Where do we draw the line? You already have the choice to have your health impacted or not by the choice to patronize or not. It's not about health. It's about having the power to govern what others can and cannot do. It's a need to control others.
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10-20-2006, 08:01 AM
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The right to express your opinion, the right to vote, the right to lobby, and the right to choose. So as you push your movement, be carfull what you ask for, you might just get it, and more on down the line.
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__________________ Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed occasionally for the same reason. Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" The hard work of one will do more than the prayer of millions. |
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10-20-2006, 08:10 AM
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We love that word!! That is the word that sets us apart from other countries and empowers us above all others, isin't it? We Americans love to vote! We feel it gives us power. Businesses vote every day by chossing their target base. Consumers vote by choosing the establishements they wish to patronize. Let's just do away with their vote by letting government decide whats best for them. So you are for voting to take away the vote of businesses and consumers. Seems a bit contrary to your emphasis on voting, doesn't it? Why not let the business system vote and see which one wins out. That is the heart of the free market system.
__________________ Never so much hatred, have I seen, as the vitriol that Obama agitates and incites in his devout following. |
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