Jesus is Imaginary

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

I just don't understand the elitest Athiest desire to prove the religious to be wrong. It's the EXACT same thing the complain about the devout doing to them.

Either one could be heard saying the following. "They are just trying to rub it in my face and believe I'm wrong. They think they are so much better than me because of how I feel and what I believe. I'll show them and then they'll be sorry when then die and find out the truth."

You say this, while your avatar screams that the planet can be saved by throwing away religion!

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Bubba

You say this, while your avatar screams that the planet can be saved by throwing away religion!

indeed I do

So are you saying that Atheism is a religion?

[Bubba]

Some would probably argue that it is....

[notyoubob]

Interesting bumper sticker
Militant Agnostic: I don't know — and neither do you!

[Mike B.]

From the Movie "RUDY"........

"There are two things I know, there is a God and I'm not Him."

[lurker]

Well, ya all just aren't paying attention. Jesus has returned .... to Dodge City!

Careful attention is necessary to get a glimpse of him cuz he changes his appearance. Sometimes he's wearing rags and other times I've seen him in slick shirts and even a cowboy hat.

Oh, he changes last names, too. Yesterday he used Garcia.

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Some would probably argue that it is....

OK that's fair enough then.

Your confusion about my current avatar is understandable so here's the short version.

In my experience religion is the cause of most of the problems, violence and horrible things that happen on this planet.

When people write rules governing how OTHER people come to terms with God or even the lack of one they have created a religion.

Then, just by their nature, those religions clash because the people wo follow one set of rules look at the rules set by another group and they feel threatened because both of them are saying that their set is the only right one.

Well humans being stupid creatures at heart they just can't let that other set of rules draw people away from theirway of thinking because if those OTHER guys get more people then our group would be wrong...

You can see where this goes. Truly this is my way of seeing the world and I don't personally care how many people come over to my way of thinking. I just don't like to see ANY one religion, and I'm including Atheists in that, try to convince memeber of another they are wrong.

Personally I do believe that every person must come to trems with a Supreme Being or the lack of one on their own terms. If that means going to church every day of the week or praying every 15 minutes or if that means telling yourself you only get one shot at life so do it right, then you do what you need to get through life.

Personally I can't ever see myself subscribing to any single religion because they are just a set of rules written by people who don't really know me and how I've come to feel about God.

If you need, or want it that's great just don't try to tell me or someone else that THEY are wrong because YOU are right.

[Detector]

Wordsmythe you sound like you believe someone is forcing you and others to except their beliefs. I set "rules" for my family but I sure don't expect others to follow, and others don't expect me to follow theirs. Now I can choose to judge others by the rules they choose to except or not, but thats just human nature and we are all guilty, religious or not, of it.

If I choose to believe there is a God what business is it of yours? I can suggest you teach your kids to not play in the street but ultimately it's your decision. No one is forcing you to make a decision but yourself.

It's almost as you have a phobia of religion. Does the idea that people choose to believe there is something bigger than living and dieing? Does it bother you so much that some people choose to believe in a God you can't see, hear or prove even exists?

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Detector

Wordsmythe you sound like you believe someone is forcing you and others to except their beliefs. I set "rules" for my family but I sure don't expect others to follow, and others don't expect me to follow theirs. Now I can choose to judge others by the rules they choose to except or not, but thats just human nature and we are all guilty, religious or not, of it.

If I choose to believe there is a God what business is it of yours? I can suggest you teach your kids to not play in the street but ultimately it's your decision. No one is forcing you to make a decision but yourself.

It's almost as you have a phobia of religion. Does the idea that people choose to believe there is something bigger than living and dieing? Does it bother you so much that some people choose to believe in a God you can't see, hear or prove even exists?

Scroll back up and read that a little slower. You obviously missed the point.

[Detector]

Obviously...

In my experience religion is the cause of most of the problems, violence and horrible things that happen on this planet. <- Sounds like a phobia to religion too me.

Then, just by their nature, those religions clash because the people wo follow one set of rules look at the rules set by another group and they feel threatened because both of them are saying that their set is the only right one. <- I live by my own set of rules as most people of religion I know do. I don't expect anyone else to live by those rules except by choice and it has been my observation that most people of religion do the same. With the exception of radicals of course. However I do not "clash" with my neighbors so why should religion?

Well humans being stupid creatures at heart they just can't let that other set of rules draw people away from theirway of thinking because if those OTHER guys get more people then our group would be wrong...Again it sounds like a phobia. A fear that people are so "stupid" that they are drawn to religion without choice.

Have you ever thought that just maybe there is other reasons, besides just being stupid creatures, that people are drawn to religion? Perhaps day to day exposure to people that have no reason to live. People that have no belief other than life is little more than a struggle to live only to die? Or seeing these people of religion happy with their lives which has the influence to help others be happy with theirs?