I have something to admit.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by youngwhippersnapper

I don't support the President. I think he is an easily manipulated simpleton with no loyalty to the American populace and to many ties to the large oil and manufacturing companies in the country. Also just look at his approval rating. He is losing so many of his former die-hard supporters because of all the blunders that have been made. I mean seriously can you count on both hands how many charges people in his administration have been indicted on criminal charges? I know I can't. You want to talk about indictments? Clinton had 40 of his people indicted...40. Check it out... THE CLINTON LEGACY

I love the troops but don't support the war in Iraq, though I did and still do support the ongoing actions in Afganistan.

I don't care if gays want to get married. The "Sanctity of Marraige" was lost when the statistic started showing that 50% of all marraiges end in divorce before the third anniversary.

I think Stem Cell research is a viable standard for medical research. Especially since they have better techniques for obtaining the cells from live fetuses instead of aborted ones.

I believe in a complete and total seperation of Church and State.

I believe that people who take the initiative to use ethanol based fuels or drive hybrid cars deserve tax breaks.

I believe in Evolution. Its all around us, even though the state doesn't want to admit it. Though I do agree that other creation alternatives should be taught in public schools including Divine Creation.

I believe abortion should continue to be legal, but heavily regulated. Doctors must garuntee that the birth will kill the mother. There are even some local girls who have had at least six abortions and thats just abusing a priviledge beyond measure. abortion is a "priviledge"? LOL...wow

I do feel that many Liberals, especially the mass-eco friend ones need to read up on the newest Global Warming study. Our sun is in a solar cycle, a warming phase, as it sits the planet Mars is experiencing its own global warming. Its just stands to reason that if its happening to Mars, its happening to us. All Gore would hate you for this statement.

I don't support Hillary Clinton. She will be as detrimental to our country as the current President. Obama is where my support lies. Why would she be a detriment to our country...she mirrors your views...

I don't support raiding of Social Security and then privitization of said program to fill it back up.

I don't support our troops being under supplied and forced to use outdated machinery in the field. We have some of the most up to date equipment in the world and it's getting constantly updated....troops cannont always be rolling in brand new equipment...

I don't support gun control regulations they tend to hinder upstanding citizens ability to protect their homes from intrusion.

And lastly. while I am not a user, I think that marijauna should be legal. And, Simultaneously, the drinking age should be raised higher and alchohol should be taxed more.


I guess I'm pretty Liberal. Thats me though. And, I think you will find that most of your kids are the same way, no matter how they were raised. Our generation is a Liberal generation. Just like the hippies of the 60's and early 70's except we don't have much to fight for...or at least a lot of us don't care to fight for anything. I am a Liberal and proud of it. I may be country as hell but I pay attention to the world around me.

Someday you won't live with your parents and you will be working and making your own way. When this happens you will probably be a little more conservative when the Libs wanna take take take from your earnings with their taxes...

[The Drifter]

last comment is a little cut throat don't ya think?

[youngwhippersnapper]

Army you are an intelligent man. I'll answer you questions as best I can. But first I never follow the ideals of specific people in the Liberal Dem party. Its a general grouping.

Bill Clinton was a prick. Plain and simple he surrounded himself with equally as many incompetant people as George W. Bush. And, by no mean are there actions that led to their numerous indictments justifiable. But you know what? I was to young to vote when Clinton was running for office on both occasions. I wasn't even 18 when Bush was elected again causing me to be unable to vote.

Abortion is a priveledge. Sadly it is because it is legal. I'm an adopted child. I know what my fate could've been horrificly short otherwise had my 16 year old biological mother taken a different path in regards to me. My point on this is that it should continue to stay legal if only there were more regulations on it. I mean hell you hear of a woman who has had six abortions, possibly more, and you begin to think that some women are just loving their ability to freely act like skanks and never have to live with the consequences.

On a side note another example I could give from personal experience, off the topic of abortion and onto the topics of STDs. I recently had an STD evaluation. Talking with the nurse who did the tests at the County Health Department, she told me that I'd be amazed about how many people she sees regularly for medical treatment from Chlamydia/Gonorrhea because they have absolutely no self control. The same goes for abortion regulation. It panders to women who have no self control with their sexual actions.

Al Gore can hate that statement all he wants. I'm a very analytical person. I do think we are in a global warming phase on this planet but its not entirely due to our influence.

Hillary Clinton sits in the same boat as her husband (read paragraph above). The fact that she continues to stay in a relationship with a man who has been so dreadfully unfaithful say nothing of her character. It only shows that she has the convictions of someone who wants nothing more than to look good to the public. This may spark a question about my statements of the sactitiy of marraige, and I have a personal belief that infidelity is all to common and it makes me sick. I have never and will never be unfaithful to my one and only. There is no truth when it comes to her. I may share some of the same views on certain topics, but I just don't like this woman. She is dangerous.

On the current status of our military's arsenal. Yes we are the best trained and we have the best weapons. But, and this is a bit but, our troop transport vehicles are still grossly outdated and many of them are outfitted by the soldiers themselves (rather poorly) with a metal armoring commonly referred to as "Pig Iron" because they can't withstand the impact shrapnal from an IED. I take this info from a co-worker who recently returned from Iraq. Our troops shouldn't be dying in the numbers that they are. I recently watched a documentary done by Jefferery Ross on his time in the USO tour in Iraq. He showed what an IED will do to a Humvee. It isn't pretty and it speaks worlds about our military's lack of initiative towards upgrading or replacing existing means of conveyance.


To recap in short.
Bill Clinton was an immoral prick who surrounded himself with other equally immoral pricks.

The abortion systems needs severe tweaking and harshing regulations.

Hillary Clinton is dangerous even if we share views on certain topics.

The military and feds don't care for the needs of the troops in the field to make sure that the majority of them are safer even in war.

Army, I am a Liberal Democrat. But I am still and Kansas boy. I was born and bred in this state, hell I've Lived in Dodge since I was four years old. I still developed my opinions through my own personal thoughts on each and every one of these subjects. Take it for what you want I guess. I did choose to type this out looking for a little spark from some people.

YWS

[youngwhippersnapper]

You know, I just typed up this long rebuttal to Army_of_One's questions and I forgot to address something.

Immigration, I stand on a very different side to this. A lot of you have read my statements about how I feel towards immigrants coming to this country, giving birth and their children are citizens.

I have thought long and hard about it recently. Deportation isn't enuf. 20ft high electrified fences that have a 5 ft depth seems to be a decent idea for a deterent. Another idea would be to place motion activated 50cal. Machine guns every 100ft down the fence. lol

Immigration is one of the only topics I don't know exactly which side I sit on.

No truly there is no answer to the immigration issue that can solve it for good. Frankly we sit at a point where the richest people in the country won't ever want our hispanics "friends" from the south to ever leave because they couldn't ever bring themselves to do their own gardening or lawn care.

One of the larger sub-issues withing the whole immigration issue is that 2.2billion dollars annually leave our country to go back to the Central American countries. Thats $2.2billion that could be helping to stabilize our faltering economy.

Crime is on the rise nation wide. Everything from Violent crimes involving guns/blade objects to rampant drug use/sales.

Frankly I don't have the answer to the immigration issue. Other than a bigger fence and more border control.

[notyoubob]

Young whipper snapper. Love that term; my dear old dead granddaddy used to call us that. Lessee, I have only voted for one presidential candidate who won, Clinton for his first term. The first one I got to vote for was Carter back when you had to be 21 to vote. I was old enough for Uncle Sam but too young to vote or legally buy hard liquor. So, you all can get out the broad brush and paint me as you wish. I am liberal when it comes to helping those truly in need. I'm a product of that Old Time Religion taught in the Methodist Church and Kansas farmer help your neighbor values, though I no longer believe that things will be really good when I'm dead and all that.
I am conservative when it comes to government interference and regulation. I firmly believe that if I screw up, I have to face the consequences. And so do you. But I sure as hell don't want anyone in government telling me how to live my life as long as I don't mess up anyone else's.
Right now I am so stoked to vote FOR someone, anyone, who gives me some hope for the future instead of some money-beholding gasbag who tells me how bad the "other guy/girl" is for me and my country. To boil it down, I love my country but fear my government.
And so it goes.

[Highwayman]

Nice post YWS. I do agree with the statement in your first post "To be a Liberal Democrat from the midwest is the equivalent of being a Middle of the Road Republican on the coasts."

I’ll be looking forward to your future posts.

FYI, the economy is not faltering.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by The Drifter

last comment is a little cut throat don't ya think?

Naw....

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

FYI, the economy is not faltering.

Amen to that...stock market is rocking and unemployment is low....what more can you ask for?

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

When this happens you will probably be a little more conservative when the Libs wanna take take take from your earnings with their taxes...

Are you saying it's every man for himself? Nothing for the common good? At it's core, Liberalism is about the common good, that some people need help and others have the means to provide it. Just like the good old fashioned conservatism, it get's bastardized into something else.

And anytime you want to trade tax liabilities, please let me know.

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by youngwhippersnapper

Army you are an intelligent man.

And you were doing pretty well there for a while.