Something to chew on...D-Day and Iraq

[Army_of_One]

The Lessons from D-Day
By Victor Davis Hanson

Sixty-three years ago this week, we landed on the Normandy beaches. As on each anniversary of June 6, 1944, much has been written to commemorate the bravery and competence of the victorious Anglo-American forces.

All true. But as we ponder this achievement of the Greatest Generation that helped lead to the surrender of Nazi Germany less than a year later, we should remember that the entire campaign was, as Wellington said of Waterloo, a near-run thing.

Our forefathers made several mistakes. They attacked nonexistent artillery emplacements. Planes dropped paratroopers far from intended targets. Critical landing assignments on Omaha Beach were missed.

Once they left shore, it got worse. Indeed, D-Day was soon forgotten in the nightmare of GIs being blown apart in the Normandy hedgerows by well-concealed, entrenched German panzers.

Apparently, no American planners - from Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Marshall down to the staff of Allied Supreme Commander Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower - had anticipated either the difficulty of penetrating miles of these dense thickets or the deadliness of new German model tanks and anti-tank weapons.

So we landed in Europe with the weaponry we had - and it was in large part vastly inferior to that of the Wehrmacht.

The most brilliant armored commander in U.S. history, George S. Patton, had been sacked from theater command for slapping an ill soldier the prior year in Sicily. Gens. Omar N. Bradley and Bernard L. Montgomery lacked his genius and audacity - and tens of thousands of Allied soldiers were to pay for Patton's absence at Normandy.

We finally broke out of the mess, after using heavy bombers to blast holes in the German lines. But again, these operations were fraught with foul-ups.

On two successive occasions we bombed our own troops, altogether killing or wounding over 1,000 Americans, including the highest-ranking officer to die in the European Theater, Lt. Gen. Lesley J. McNair. The nature of his death was hidden from the press - as were many mistakes and casualties both leading up to and after Normandy.

When the disaster in the bocage near the Normandy beaches ended over two months after D-Day, the victorious Americans, British and Canadians had been bled white. Altogether, the winners of the Normandy campaign suffered a quarter-million dead, wounded or missing, including almost 30,000 American fatalities - losing nearly 10 times the number of combat dead in four years of fighting in Iraq.

News from the other fronts during the slaughter in Normandy was no better. Due to blunders by American generals in Italy, the retreating German army had escaped the planned Allied encirclement - and would kill thousands more Allied soldiers in Italy during the next year.

Disturbing reports spread about the simultaneous advance and brutality of Stalin's Red Army on the Eastern Front. Some in the American government began to worry that a war started over freedom for Eastern Europe might end up guaranteeing its enslavement - Stalin's storm troopers merely replacing Hitler's.

While we were ground up in the hedgerows, in the Pacific theater thousands of American amphibious troops were lost during the Marianas campaign. True, we kept winning gruesome amphibious assaults, but we didn't seem to learn much from them.

Instead, far worse carnage lay in store at places named Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa. All these bloodbaths near the end of the war were characterized by the sheer heroism of the American soldier - who suffered terribly from intelligence failures and poor leadership of his superiors.

What can we learn, then, on this anniversary of the Normandy campaign?

By any historical measure, our forefathers committed as many strategic and tactical blunders as we have in Afghanistan and Iraq - but lost tens of thousands more Americans as a result of such errors. We worry about emboldening Iran by going into Iraq; the Normandy generation fretted about empowering a colossal Soviet Union.

Of course, World War II was an all-out fight for our very existence in a way many believe the war against terror that began on 9/11 is not. Even more would doubt that al-Qaida jihadists in Iraq pose the same threat to civilization as the Wehrmacht did in Europe.

Nevertheless, the Normandy campaign reminds us that war is by nature horrific, fraught with foolish error - and only won by the side that commits the least number of mistakes. Our grandfathers knew that. So they pressed on as best they could, convinced that they needn't be perfect, only good enough, to win.

The American lesson of D-Day and its aftermath was how to overcome occasional abject stupidity while never giving up in the face of an utterly savage enemy. We need to remember that now more than ever.

Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and author, most recently, of "A War Like No Other: How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War." You can reach him by e-mailing author@victorhanson.com.

[Highwayman]

Once they left shore, it got worse. Indeed, D-Day was soon forgotten in the nightmare of GIs being blown apart in the Normandy hedgerows by well-concealed, entrenched German panzers.

The hedgerows are a story in itself. One of the best ideas came from troops in the field. Sergeant Curtis G. Culin of the 2nd Armored Division's 102nd Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron created a device from scrap iron from a German roadblock.

More than anything else, the Normandy campaign is an excellent example of how the U.S. Army adapted itself to unforeseen circumstances and a hostile environment. Individual soldier initiative and injunity were welcomed and fostered. American operations in the Bocage prove that a successful army must have the ability to change and adapt under fire in order to develop correct methods for overcoming the enemy. In this respect, the First Army performed well in Normandy and laid the foundation for operations that eventually carried U.S. armies beyond the Rhine River and to victory.

Read the hedgerow story here..
Military History Online - Breakout from the Hedgerows

[Army_of_One]

Great story...it sounds like they didn't have the equipment on the ground they needed so they developed somthing that worked by welding the pipe on the tanks...you know..that is similar to some of the things happening in Iraq.

[Highwayman]

It’s never been expected for Washington to think of everything.

Until now.

[SGT T.]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

The hedgerows are a story in itself. One of the best ideas came from troops in the field. Sergeant Curtis G. Culin of the 2nd Armored Division's 102nd Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron created a device from scrap iron from a German roadblock.

All the best ideas come from NCO's. Right Army?

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by SGT T.

All the best ideas come from NCO's. Right Army?

Army Strong...there is a reason why NCO's ARE the backbone of the Army!

[Flying Dutchman]

We will never learn from our past because we are wrapped in the present.

If instant news was possible during WWII we would have never finished. The public would have turned against our leaders and they would have caved in. Ever see the news reports from that time? The Japanese and Germans were all seen as the enemy. Sure, there were some who felt it was below us to lower to the level of name calling, but the vast majority hated the enemy. You never saw news reports feeling sympathy for them. Now, in todays world, you are a horrible person if you do not try to see things from the enemy's side.

War is what it is, If you ever even question for one second if you would kill, annhilate or eradicate your enemy you have no business being in it. There is no right and wrong, that stuff is for philosophers. The enemy is hiding in a building, you eradicate the whole block. To feel sympathy for the enemy is a weakness, which they will exploit to the fullest. Guilt has no place on the battlefield.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

To feel sympathy for the enemy is a weakness, which they will exploit to the fullest. Guilt has no place on the battlefield.

AMEN....there is also no place on the battlefield for being politically correct....

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

AMEN....there is also no place on the battlefield for being politically correct....

Meaning it’s OK to call them a bleeping raghead while sending them to Allah.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

Meaning it’s OK to call them a bleeping raghead while sending them to Allah.

...and perhaps a high five to your buddy after you disinigrate one of them with a .50 cal round.