DC Resort & Gaming In Wichita Eagle Today

[old timer]

Evidenced mostly by buying their land.

Forgot to point out that per the application of Butler, the land is now an asset to 'prove' their financial abilities. The Dodge City Gaming group didn't need that. Plans to sell the land are part of the Butler National means to have enough money.

The local involvement is basically the sell of the land by Bogner and the real estate ads by Starks, plus the lobbying activities. IE., neither group is really 'more' local than the other at this point -- both have local land or options, both have local lobbyists, both are Kansas based

Most of the money, for both, will go out of town, except for the head tax and the sales taxes and the employee spending -- basically the same.

Of course, as discussed before, the actual cost to Dodge City/Ford County will be more than the profit. The west of town location will require everything from water wells to new city roads (and fire station) based on what the city has said. Sprawl for the city is never good costwise, nor ecologically, but no one seems to care much about that.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by old timer

Guess that is different than being a paid lobbyist ? Just checking.

Does the sarcasm ever stop? I received no pay for 7-years of lobbying, paid much of my own expenses, meals, fuel, used vacation days. Many others from Dodge did the same or contributed to help with costs - and then we put up with your crap.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by Redhead 18

Thanks Clueless;

I do appreciate your answers. First off I will admit that I made a mistake when I implied using “will your company”. I know that is wrong. It should have been, the company that you support. Sorry about that.

One thing that I do not understand, you stated, “As far as I know, Butler National owns 100% of all assets that are involved with the casino proposal”.

If that is the case, How do we have Local People involved. Will Butler, construct the Casino plus operate the same? Was this term, Local People used to get the Casino off the ground?

First of all, who am I talking to? Arkansaspm posted the questions, yet you respond saying you asked the questions? Are you the same person, or two people posting under different names?

There is no dark shadows - if anything Butler has been far more open and specific with their plans from the beginning (which was over one year ago, not the last few months). Butler owns all the assets that are related to the destination casino complex - that's a true statement.

The phase-1 Casino complex is the primary focus of the Lottery Gaming Facilities Review Board. It must have a minimum investment of $50 Million, including land, casino, hotel, restaurants, etc. The casino complex will consume about 60 acres. (which will be probably true of both applicants because size is almost identical).

Development of the rest of the land is another story and may involve other individuals. That's a different investment completely, but it will relate to the casino complex and becomes part of the whole. In Butler's case, they will sell or lease parcels as a planned retail development called Mariah Center. In Dodge City Gaming's case they have said they will have rodeo arenas and ag event buildings, together with retail and an RV park.

If locals hadn't worked hard for years in Topeka, along with our legislators, there wouldn't be gaming in Dodge City. We knew everyone in Kansas who was pro-gaming, including the Butler reps. They stood-out above others for their honesty and integrity. That's why in the end they were the best choice. Boot Hill Gamng entered into a development agreement where both groups worked together the last two years. There was no abuse of the term local's - it was the other way around. The 'local's' opened doors to the developers. And point of fact is I never saw one of the Dodge City Gaming team as a lobby partner in Topeka, with the exception of Bob Knight who was working with the Indian tribes. Not once. They arrived here after the 'local's' had made it happen.

And - I guess it's important to say that Butler National is headquartered in Olathe, but it's their people that are important. Their president was raised in Nashville, KS, south of Cunningham - his wife was raised in Ness City - her mother was a board member of Arrowhead West for over 20 years - a brother lives in Dodge City - they lived in SW Kansas for many years, involved in another manufacturing business. That's pretty local to me - and a hoot different than the competition.

[Bubba]

From today's Globe...

Butler National has proposed building a Wild West-themed casino on the west edge of Dodge City, near U.S. Highway 50. This $93 million project would consist of 875 electronic gaming machines, 20 gaming tables and a 124-room resort-style hotel. The 400-acre casino would also feature a variety of restaurants, a rooftop spa and a center for conferences and live entertainment.
Dodge City Resort and Gaming Co. has pitched a similar plan to build a Western-style casino on 281 acres in the northeast corner of the city by Highway 50. This complex would include 800 gaming machines, 20 gaming tables, meetings rooms, three rodeo arenas, an RV park and a livestock room.

So the question, as I see it, is do we want a resort type casino and hotel (Butler) or do we want a RV park/livestock casino (DC Resort & Gaming)???


I don't know about the rest of you, but I think a resort type destination casino would be much better than a RV park/rodeo casino. The whole RV Park/rodeo/livestock thing sounds a little too redneck and cheesy to me.

[gadwall]

bubba you may not like our dodge city history but that is our brand. it is how the would sees us. we ain't bringing the casinos to dodge city for the local folks that would be STUPID. the tourist are coming to dodge for our western atmosphere so lets give it to them.

[Arkansaspm]

Clueless, you’re sharp.

It’s still me. Mom, Dad, and Son, 3 computers, one in the bedroom, one in the upstairs, one in the basement. 5 e-mail address, one for each computer, (makes 3), one for Pay Pal, one for on line banking. Each computer has a different login to dodgeboard.com. The second post was from a different computer, you are right.

If you will note, all of the post I have made, I have tried to be civil. I’m trying to ask questions that will supply information to every one and I do appreciate your truthful answer when you have the information.

I understand that Butler have their own design company. The question that I was asking “Will Butler, construct the casino, plus operate the same”? I do not understand how this will work. I though that a group of Local Investor were to build the Casino, and income from gaming would pay for the Casino after a certain number of years, then it would be turned over to the State, and Butler would run the show. Am I wrong on this?

[gadwall]

yep you are. the casino will be owned by the state from the get go as it was explained to me by the pres of boot hill gaming.

[KONQ RADIO]

Originally Posted by Bubba

From today's Globe...

So the question, as I see it, is do we want a resort type casino and hotel (Butler) or do we want a RV park/livestock casino (DC Resort & Gaming)???

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think a resort type destination casino would be much better than a RV park/rodeo casino. The whole RV Park/rodeo/livestock thing sounds a little too redneck and cheesy to me.

I'll bet that the majority of the new money coming to the casino will be waiting truck drivers.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by gadwall

bubba you may not like our dodge city history but that is our brand. it is how the would sees us. we ain't bringing the casinos to dodge city for the local folks that would be STUPID. the tourist are coming to dodge for our western atmosphere so lets give it to them.

Dodge City already has a rodeo ground/arena. How is a RV park part of Dodge City history? Butler plans a western theme to go with Dodge City and its history. Call me crazy but I think tourists would like a nice hotel resort over an RV Park.

[K C Muffin]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Dodge City already has a rodeo ground/arena. How is a RV park part of Dodge City history? Butler plans a western theme to go with Dodge City and its history. Call me crazy but I think tourists would like a nice hotel resort over an RV Park.

I don't disagree with you, Bubba. RV parks tend to get pretty trashy pretty fast, no matter how many regulations there are. Especially if times are tight and some funds are cut - the first to go is the outside maintenance. Would the casino then be required to carry the liability insurance on the park? It would only take one non-citizen squatter with a gun to close it down.