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Old 04-10-2006, 09:24 PM
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I'm surprised they weren't "wife beater" shirts............
You got that right ...
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:42 PM
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....And the number TWO segment of the Mexican economy? Money sent back to Mexico from immigrants living and working in the Untied States accounting for $17 Billion
I’ve heard it reported as second or third depending on the source. Either way it makes a giant sucking sound.
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:47 PM
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The Mexican economy is very dependent on the (illegal) drug trade; but you won't find its ranking.
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Old 04-12-2006, 09:05 AM
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It was so embarassing to even be associated with "Dodge City" monday because of the " peacefull march". Im thinking it would have made a bigger statement if all those people wrote letters with their needs, ideas, and opinions to the people that matter.
I think the school district really screwed up when they said that the kids that missed school monday for this was " excused ". What lesson did those kids learn from this? That when you want something bad enough you can just skip school, skip work and go play outside and look like a bunch of disrespectful people and expect to get something out of it.
How about the picture of the front page of yesterdays Globe. Was I the only one that saw the upside down AMERICAN FLAG??? Maybe I havent paid enough attention to all of this but it seems to be that " they" are fighting for all these rights for illegal imigrants.. is that right? What part of ILLEGAL do they not get??? Come to America the right way for the right reasons and respect what America is all about instead of thinking and acting like somone owes you something.
I think somone earlier hit the nail on the head. This is going to cause a lot more racial tention than we already had. It was so thick monday you could cut it with a knife. Im suprised someone didnt.
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Old 04-12-2006, 09:13 AM
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The flag count in that picture was 29 identifiable Tri-Color and only 15 Stars & Bars.
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Old 04-12-2006, 09:19 AM
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Doesn't "Stars and Bars" refer to the Confedrate flag?
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Old 04-12-2006, 09:45 AM
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It was so embarassing to even be associated with "Dodge City" monday because of the " peacefull march". [snip] What lesson did those kids learn from this? That when you want something bad enough you can just skip school, skip work and go play outside and look like a bunch of disrespectful people and expect to get something out of it.
How about they learned the lesson that the 1st and 14th amendments to the constitution are as valid today as they were when they were ratified? And why just ashamed of Dodge? This was a nationwide thing.

One can disagree with the protesters, their methods, and their intentions all day long; it's one's right <wink>. You cannot not however wrap yourself in the flag and criticize their right to association and to protest without being hypo-critical the next time someone questions something you believe strongly in, be it prayer in schools, guns, a criminal proceeding or anything else.

And before someone jumps my butt about non-citizens protesting, the wording the 1st amendment states *people*, not *citizens* and the fourteenth extended those rights officially to *non-citizens*.
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One must believe this is simply an immigration issue to validate it through the 1st and 14th amendment. It has nothing to do with the 1st and 14th and everything to do with crime and criminals.

The above statement does makes sense, are these supporters trying to teach kids breaking the law/rules is OK if you have a good excuse?
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:11 AM
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Immigrants' firing leads to protest
15 women lose jobs after attending rally; manager says they were warned

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Old 04-12-2006, 10:52 AM
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One must believe this is simply an immigration issue to validate it through the 1st and 14th amendment. It has nothing to do with the 1st and 14th and everything to do with crime and criminals
The right to associate and protest in this country is paramount, that's all. The reason why one protest can and is often open for disagreement.

Some, even most, of the protestors may be in this country illegally. However the their *crime* from a punishment standpoint is similar to a traffic citation, it's primarily a civil punishment in most cases. They're criminals in the same sense any one of us when we exceed the posted speed limit or rush a yellow light only to have it turn red just as get there and go through it. Only they don't get a fine, they get sent back. Albeit only in many cases to try again.

In a perfect world, there would be no illegal immigration. Those here would be returned or those allowed to stay would do a better job assimilating but the world is not perfect. I seem to read a lot of opinions on how they are cheating to system to live off the taxpayer's dime. Being involved in a social service type business, trust me, the taxpayers aren't out as much as one may think. I think the biggest issue that impact most taxpayers is the education issue but those in charge of education can't seem to get johnny to write a complete sentence and do a multiplication table, how the hell can they assimilate a strategy for educating immigrants?

My way of dealing with it personally was to make sure I had a badder car stereo than *they* did so I could drown out their music with a good dose of Zepplin or Tull. But if you were behind me at the light and preferred country music, you probably get PO'd at me too.

There will eventually be a resolution to this issue, and it will probably be somewhere in the middle of the various thoughts. Even Frist and Hastert are now backing off the call to criminalize the routine undocumented entry.
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