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Old 04-26-2006, 08:18 AM
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On the other hand every little bit you use driving that mustang your 5 blocks is a little bit that hurts.
Hurts what? It only hurts because the Liberals have made it hurt with their environmental policies and putting a few endangered creatures ahead of more important things....like our national security. AGAIN...one more way the Dems are destroying this country.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:34 AM
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The short-term problem lays at the feet of the crude oil traders and their reaction(s) to market volitility. Supply and Demand seems to be in-check but a market 'run' can be triggered by world events and emotions. (anyone remember Johnny Carson's toilet paper shortage?)

I wouldn't want to see any public monies spent on any hydro-carbon development when hydrogen is so easily within reach with a simple shift of mindset in Washington....
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:02 AM
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The short-term problem lays at the feet of the crude oil traders and their reaction(s) to market volitility. Supply and Demand seems to be in-check but a market 'run' can be triggered by world events and emotions. (anyone remember Johnny Carson's toilet paper shortage?)
True true. A small group of traders reacting to Iran's statements, Chavez's antics and such run the price up but....if the market wouldn't bear it they couldn't get those prices. Also while that's true about short term problems, the short term problems are because of our dependency on foreign oil because Dems have stifled drilling and production of refineries here in the U.S. If we were NOT so dependent upon foreign oil then our reactions to the things happening in the world would be less dramatic......

P.S. Since wordy is riding his tricycle to work now I guess I can take an extra cruise to the Sonic in my Mustang....lol Thanks for doing your part Wordster. Once word gets out that you're triking it to work oil prices will probably fall dramatically..... Remember to wear your helmet.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:27 AM
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if the market wouldn't bear it they couldn't get those prices.
People dumb enough to keep paying it are the ones who will bear the brunt of it and are the ones who are responsible for the problem.

But as I said before the higher you allow gas prices to go and the more you waste the madder people will get and the backlash will help get the fundies out of power and I'm all for that.

I won't mind making some cuts in other places to pay the $5 a gallon predicted by the end of the summer if it helps to get people to do the right thing.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:34 AM
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I wouldn't want to see any public monies spent on any hydro-carbon development when hydrogen is so easily within reach with a simple shift of mindset in Washington....
The problem with any alternative energy source is it will take years before it’s cost effective to implement in any massive scale. The cars have to be competitively priced and there has to be an infrastructure of fueling stations to support them. That simply can’t happen overnight even if the cars were to be on the showroom floor tomorrow.

We don’t need to spend public monies on expanding existing oil/gas development. The oil companies will do that themselves provided the government doesn’t have a knee-jerk reaction like imposing a windfall profits tax that would siphon off the R&D money needed. What the government needs to do is relax the restrictions on drilling and building refineries.

The free market will fix itself if government will just get out of the way. Alternate energy will become a reality when it becomes cost competitive and that needs a free market environment to happen. If the government forces it on us we will end up longing for the days of cheap $4 a gallon gas.
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I've heard it will take far higher than $5 a gallon before Americans quit just complaining and do something about it.
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The oil companies will do that themselves provided the government doesn’t have a knee-jerk reaction like imposing a windfall profits tax that would siphon off the R&D money needed. What the HELL is a WINDFALL profits tax anyway??? Some Liberal (forgot his name) said the other day that oil companies have excess profits...what is EXCESS profit in a capitalistic society? I was floored.

the government needs to do is relax the restrictions on drilling and building refineries. AMEN to this but the Libs will block it because they don't want the Bush Admin or the country to succeed.

The free market will fix itself if government will just get out of the way. AMEN to that. Alternate energy will become a reality when it becomes cost competitive and that needs a free market environment to happen. If the government forces it on us we will end up longing for the days of cheap $4 a gallon gas. Well said...>Brother you should run for Congress.
Still wondering what excess profit is..........
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:03 AM
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Still wondering what excess profit is..........
Liberals (socialists) believe that all money belongs to the government (them if they ever get back into power). If an individual or business has a little left over after taxes it’s like our allowance. If there is more than what they think our allowance should be its excess.
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True true. A small group of traders reacting to Iran's statements, Chavez's antics and such run the price up but....if the market wouldn't bear it they couldn't get those prices.....
Also, the majority of the traders running up the prices are just speculators and not producers of oil.
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People dumb enough to keep paying it are the ones who will bear the brunt of it and are the ones who are responsible for the problem.

But as I said before the higher you allow gas prices to go and the more you waste the madder people will get and the backlash will help get the fundies out of power and I'm all for that. Yes, then if the libs are in power they can pass MORE restrictions on drilling and such...Maybe they would cut taxes on gas...oh no wait...they RAISE taxes not cut them.

I won't mind making some cuts in other places to pay the $5 a gallon predicted by the end of the summer if it helps to get people to do the right thing.What exactly IS..."the right thing"?
So tell my MR. Wordsmythe.....IF the Liberals capture power what would they do to make oil so much cheaper than what it is now?
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