Immigration speech...

[Army_of_One]

SO what did everyone think?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/15/D8HKHJG80.html

I think he will get a small boost in the polls. I think that if he can get the House and Senate to follow through that most of these measures are good. I believe the Dems will throw up roadblocks every chance they get because they are not going to vote for anything that will make this country better as long as Bush is in office....watch and see.....

[Highwayman]

I think it’s a lot of too little too late. The border has been ignored by both parties for decades. Bush did talk about doing something at first but Congress didn’t want any part of it. Tom Tancredo has been making lots of noise about securing the borders for years and he’s treated like a freak by most of the other politicians. The House Republicans have passed a bill for border security every year since 1997 and it gets killed in the Senate were Democrats can and do manage to block things they don’t like.

Talking about any kind of amnesty at this point is a mistake. It just says hurry up and get here before the door slams shut.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

SO what did everyone think?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/15/D8HKHJG80.html

I think he will get a small boost in the polls. I think that if he can get the House and Senate to follow through that most of these measures are good. I believe the Dems will throw up roadblocks every chance they get because they are not going to vote for anything that will make this country better as long as Bush is in office....watch and see.....

I'd proudly become a democrat IF they ever provide a long-term solution to society's ills without their single-minded shift of wealth solution.

Scientific America expressed today's problems in 1869 within a short column titled "LABOR AND CAPITAL NOT ANTAGONISITC"
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-b...ames=1&view=75

It's not an easy read...

[Bubba]

I agree with Highwayman, too little too late. It is a move to make his poll numbers go up. Other than the 6000 National Guard, there was nothing new in what he was saying. 6000 National Guard, while better than nothing, doesn't come close to what is needed.

[K C Muffin]

I agree with you guys. I'm afraid he's spreading our military wealth too thin. Then again, we're going to spend a certain amount of money for the rest of our lives to support illegal immigrants. We may as well spend it now to get them out and keep them out than to cry about it forever. I just don't want to burn our military. While the bennies are good for the retirees, we don't pay our enlisted guys nearly enough to survive. And we ask them to move all over the world, sometimes with families in tow.

[TexKan]

I was pleased when I heard the speech........ disappointed when I found out what it meant. Kinda like when my kids would tell me they had passed a test - then found out it was with a D.............. I'm not feelin too good right now......... I think it's a place to start but it's like a piece of plastic for a sucking chest wound.......... it will sufice but sure as hell won't fix the problem.

[Detector]

I'm with ya. I found the speech lacking in substance and other than a few more guards on the boarder seems to be a repeat of 20 years ago. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

Most depressing was the talk of amnesty. We don't need 12 million criminals becoming Americans even if they would assimilate. Send them to the back of the line(Mexico) behind the ones that are going through the legal process, which makes a better American, and let them start over.

We can't deport 12 million Mexicans but we can make hiring them a felony and enforce it and that would drive them back on their own. We cannot reward criminal behavior. 20 years ago we did the same thing and now we have 20-30 million to deal with. Rewarding criminals only produces more criminals.

"Up-to" 6000 guards is not going to make a difference especially since they can't do anything. Combining a bill of boarder control with amnesty is just stupid. Every one wants tighter boarders, the debate is over the amnesty. They need to separate the two and FIRST pass a bill on boarder control then on a separate ticket argue what to do with 12 million criminals. They know the only way they can get amnesty to pass is by tyeing it with boarder control.

Bushes speech was a waste of 16 minutes.

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

SO what did everyone think?

I think he will get a small boost in the polls. I think that if he can get the House and Senate to follow through that most of these measures are good. I believe the Dems will throw up roadblocks every chance they get because they are not going to vote for anything that will make this country better as long as Bush is in office....watch and see.....

Looks like the road blocks to the president's plan is coming more from his own party.

One source of many similar:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12816021/

[wordsmythe]

He didn't offer any real solutions in his reading last night other than amnesty for illegals already here.

The troops on the border aren't going to be effective as anything more than a smokescreen to draw controversay away from the fact that nothing real is being done.

Here's what I'd like to see...

We are putting troops on the border as active support to the border patrol. They will be there for more than 2 weeks so that they can actually get a grasp of what's heppening and what needs to be done. This is a stop gap measure only to buy us time while we quadruple the number of trained border patrol agents.

Next we are going to impose a fine of $10,000 per violation for any company or person found to be employing illegal aliens in their busines and audits will begin immediately.

Also we will bring full diplomatic pressure and begin immediate sanctions against trade with Mexico in order to gain their government's cooperation in protecting their side of the border.

Anyone caught on this side of the U.S. border without proper documentation will be placed on the Mexico side of the border within 48 hours of their identification as an illegal alien.

Just a few ideas off the top of my head.

[K C Muffin]

Those make sense, Wordie - I'm afraid our government's full attention has been turned from matters at hand to re-election strategies. Why don't you elevate those to a congressman that can make a difference?