Boot Hill needs mo money!

[Mike B.]

The solution to Boot Hill and it's financial difficulties are very simple to resolve.

First, Boot Hill needs money from the city. The city is in a bind, because they really don't want to raise property taxes, to support Boot Hill.

Alot of people would like the city to use the WND sales tax to bail Boot Hill out, but a judge in Wichita says not untill the city starts the construction of the Special Events Center. (The last of the four WND projects).

So what's the hold up? Start building the SEC! Then we can give part of the WND sales tax money to Boot Hill.

Greg Starks, what the hold up? Get your committee together and "Git 'er done" Lord knows the city commission will pass whatever you gentlemen (and woman) propose!

Just a quick question here...Why is the C.F.A.B. looking for an outside firm to manage and operate the S.E.C. (if, and when construction begins?) Maybe because when it falls flat on it's face, there will always be someone else to blame?

We can build the SEC, to the tune of $30,000,000.00. (2.6 million a year, just for principle and interest and another 1 million a year for operational expenses). Bail out Boot Hill with another $275,000.00/year, (which is now a trend). Keep supporting Legends Ball Park with $419,000.00 a year, and let's not forget D.C.R.P. at $492,000.00 a year. Oh! I almost forgot about the civic center parking lot!

Last figure I heard is that the WND sales tax brings in approx. 3.9 million dollars a year.

And after all this we can still give WND sales tax money to Round-Up, Trail of Fame, Boot Hill Theater, and whoever else puts their hand out!

You do the math! To me it just doesn't add up!!

In Conclusion......

The building of the Special Event Center will free up all of our WND sales tax money and allow us to bail out Boot Hill and any organization that needs money.

Please think about it!!

[gunnar1073]

I keep looking up, Chicken Little, but the sky is still there...

Greg Starks, what the hold up? Get your committee together and "Git 'er done" Lord knows the city commission will pass whatever you gentlemen (and woman) propose!

Yep, cuz this has happened how many times?

We can build the SEC, to the tune of $30,000,000.00. (2.6 million a year, just for principle and interest and another 1 million a year for operational expenses). Bail out Boot Hill with another $275,000.00/year, (which is now a trend). Keep supporting Legends Ball Park with $419,000.00 a year, and let's not forget D.C.R.P. at $492,000.00 a year. Oh! I almost forgot about the civic center parking lot!

Surely there is some cashola left under the mattress after 10 years of resistance from you and others like yourself to building the darn barn right? I mean usually you lay down a decent down payment and that interest rate drops.. so that has to account for something. As for the Boot Hill bail out I hope it has reached it's end.

I find it funny how the true issues, (i.e. the BootHill Bail out and the jail and others), are delivered in that always all too familiar SEC wrapping paper.

[Mike B.]

gunnar1073,

First of all, the C.F.A.B. must make a proposal to the city commission concerning the building of the S.E.C. This has not happened! Why?

Why is the C.F.A.B. dragging their feet?

Are they afraid of something?

Heck, the W.N.D. fund has over $11,000,000.00 sitting in the bank. It's about time we start spending it. Don't you think?

I'm saying we have so much money sitting around, why not do something with it.

If we start the building of the S.E.C. we then can use W.N.D. sales tax money to bail out Boot Hill and continue on with the other projects as well. (Donald Innes, the judge, even said so)

[Sapphire]

Originally Posted by Mike B.

So what's the hold up? Start building the SEC! Then we can give part of the WND sales tax money to Boot Hill.

To me, this seems to be case of erecting a building that Dodge does not need (the SEC) to save another one that should be on its way out (Boot Hill).

Frankly, Boot Hill sucks. It isn't worth saving in its current form. I am all for supporting cultural institutions, but Boot Hill is boring and hokey. Friends who have come to visit us from other states don't even care about going there.

If you want to start building some sort of special events center, make it something that will attract tourism. If not, why bother? We already have the Civic Center - why do we need an SEC?

If the city put all that money it has sitting around into truly revising the tourism industry in this town, then we wouldn't have to worry about saving old shitty ones. If you build it, they will come -- but only if it's to something worth building.

[TexKan]

Not to be argumentative but - what would you replace Dodge City's claim to fame with? DC history is Boot Hill and the cattle trails, the gunslingers, the buffalo hunters. I realize there is a financial issue and a major one at that. My question is - what' your history worth? Is it something you are willing to abandod cause it's out of date with the folks that are there now? I think towns that can be the "keepers" of the stories and paths should do so if possible.

If it's not possible - and it may not be - what would Dodge hang it's hat on? A taco stand? I think to hold history for future generations is a privilege - I also think that one issue is folks just wanna know where the money is goin. It seems it's not Boot Hill they are so angry about it's the management. I think a city so rich in history is just layin down to the "me , me, me" generation and that is a very sad development. If the parents of our parents had thought more about "me" and less about future generations there would be no history. I don't think any generation has the right to destroy and bury where we came from - that is the epitomy of selfishness. I think a mere accountability of funds and some revamp of admin perhaps could help. Boot hill should be a labor of love! It may be boring to some but sometimes that's becuase they are more interested in where THEY came from, rather than where they are - there's often no investment.

[Sapphire]

I'm not saying that we should abandon what DC is famous for - quite the contrary. I just think that there could be something a *lot* better than Boot Hill. Or even some sort of revamping of Boot Hill might work. I don't know the answer.

[jeezeweeze]

I have loved Kansas sence I moved there, with husband when he was stationed at McConnell...way way back...then years later, many many transfers and a divorce... and a remarriage... my second I LOVE YOU TRUELY...transplanted me to SW Ks.... I however didn't appreciate the rich history til they had that longhorn drive a few years back...now that was awesome...

I had always loved cowboys, as a child and growing up...movies... serials on Saturday afternoon...some of you know what I mean..and then on T-wee...so I already had a fondness most of my life..and guess what ... most Europeans and Asians, still to this day...absolutly worship the cowboy way..

I hope, someone with alot of bucks and a love for history...rides in and saves the whole place...we need the Donald..or the Bill...or King of Kuwait..(now theres an Idea )... really tho... Casinos would do well I think... to bring in fundage... via tourism.... but make the whole place COWBOY HEAVEN...not just Boothill....
The smell of cowshit ..after a rain...now thats nostalgic..
I think I will send a letter to KING FAHUUD...(is that his name ???)

whats really sad..... in f**ked up South Carolina... someone would ask where I moved there from...I would ask if they had heard of Dodge City...and most replied no...........OMG....

[TexKan]

I think there is a way out - but I fear the folks runnin the place are just worried bout havin a job right now. That's kinda sad - We have lots of historic place in Galveston - they have tours, receptions, banquets, weddings, ets....... most these places have folks that volunteer thier time to the antebellum homes and such cause of thier love for the archetecture and actually just the plain "history" of the south and of Galveston when in it's hey day - it was the Wall Street of the south. Galveston was for a while the capitol of Texas. Houston was still a speck on Buffalo Bayou. It was swamp.
The only thing that made Houston was the extension of the ship channel to Houston. Before that Galveston was the only port.

DC was a big part of the migration to the west and the was the life line for Texas cattle ranchers. If it weren't for Dodge there woulda been no NY Strips, Kansas City would have been beggin for beef and IMHO the expansion to the west by farmers and civilization in general just wouldn't have taken place like it did. DC is the place dreams were made of. Just sad to lose that history. I'm with you Sapphire - I don't know the answer - I'm just glad tho that I don't rely on the Boot hill paid staff to take care of my families history. I don't think they would do it out of love. Course perhaps they have great ideas but no cash. I think Wichita has the right idea and shame on DC for not makin Boot Hill more of a positive things that really inspires folks to get involved.

The times I helped with events at Boot Hill it seemed to me the staff there really loved the place - but I do feel they are overwhelmed and the imagination factor is lacking based on thier current path. Surely not every problem is solved by just throwing money at it. It takes - buy in and ownership in a non monitary way. After that the fever is contagious and the money then follows.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by TexKan

...If it weren't for Dodge there woulda been no NY Strips...

Those might be fightin' words to Muffie! Around here we call 'em KC Strips.

[TexKan]

Well let me jump in real quick to add - obviously there is an identity crisis!! Ya know Bubba - I did know that........ in Ks they are KC strips...... in Tx they are NY strips......... It's thursday so with BBQ in full swing I wans't thinkin bout location!! My excuse is I been lookin at the grocery adds and forgot last time I asked for KC stips they laughed at me. It's tough bein Texas bred, Ks born, Tx raised....... a girl gets confused!!!

Other thing I checked was the bitch / dipshit scores...... I didnt' wanna mess with a sista that might "spank" me !!

So with that - I offer my apologies before I get in too much trouble!! LOL LOL ( I think that is part of my dipshit score!!)