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Old 08-29-2006, 07:19 AM
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I believe if a community chooses to be intolerant toward a group it should be their right. SURE...why not..Welcome to Meade....Homo's, Blacks, Hispanics and anyone not like us sit on the back of the bus, don't drink from out water fountain and definitely will not get served at a local diner......Majority Rule...NICCCCCCCCCE. What are you protecting the majority from? A Homosexual eating in their diner? Are you protecting them from someone exercising their constitutional rights to free speach by flying a rainbow flag....?

The reason I feel the way I do is because I believe in the majority rule. I know what about protecting the minority. I believe its important to protect the minority but equally important is protecting the majority. Is it fair that one person take presidency of many? NO!



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Old 08-29-2006, 08:32 AM
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Ooooo ALL very good points!
I'm not sure there really is any gay issues going on here. I don't think the 12 yo has come outta the closet - after all he was 10 at the time he bought it! It has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of any other relative. They will get what they want - they will starve an out of state businessman out and he will take his business elsewhere and Meade will continue to fade into the wheat fields - which is what they want.

Sadly it will reflect on SW Kansas that thier intollerance is well just..... intollerable.

Yeah this really looks like a win/win for all involved.

I do altho agree with both sides. Phelps was the worse thing that coulda happened to this - the anger he incites something Meade really shouldn't have associated themselves with. Too bad - the flag really was no big deal. What he sold in his business could have been dealt with with a city ordnance if it was sexually oriented. If not then who cares what he sells? This is almost like the Salem witch hunts!
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:30 PM
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We're all guilty of being intolerant. We draw our own lines of tolerance and then point fingers at those who don't except our line.[snip]
If you think about it people of faith are just more Conservative and view the rest as liberals, and we all know liberals ARE the root of all evil
Then you must really have a hard time dealing with a somewhat religious Liberal dont' ya? If making sure you have a chance for a living wage, non sweat shop working conditions, fair treatment if arrested, and some social safety net if there's not a kneejerk liberal around to protect your livelihood when someone decides they don;t like you makes liberals the root of all evil, then so be it.

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Personally I see this rainbow coalition no better than the Phelps bunch.
Yea man, how dare them rainbow people have the audacity to complain about affordable housing, the need for sustainable jobs, education, and a fair shake! Shouldn't they be out tormenting the surviving family members of people who were put themselves harms way and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Not only tormenting them but telling them their son/daughter/husband/wife/father/mother paid that sacrifice because Somewhere in their state, we allow two men have sex together?

Methinks not.

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The tolerance door swings both ways. Any way it should swing both ways..
According to the fine upstanding folks from a certain church in Topeka, swinging both ways is a sin. It's hetero only or God's gonna punish soldiers.

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If that religion teaches its a sin to be gay, then they should be free to live by it. It's not our place to judge the faith of others. I believe this is really what our founding fathers had in mind.
For once I halfway agree with you. I'll take it one step farther and state that as a bloc, those who believe that way want to an extent in terms of political lobbying, choice of where and how they spend their money, and how they live their lives socially then so be it. However when they attempt to ram that belief down one's throat to the exclusion of all other issues and in the face of established laws, then they have stepped too far.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:35 PM
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From what I've heard the hotel owner(s) son is gay and the town knew it. The flag was being flown as promoting gay rights and the rest of the town didn't like it.
I find this whole thing funny, when that upscale shopping area opened up on the West side of Wichita, I was in Borders waiting a long time to be served in their coffee shop. I picked up several of the free "alternative newspapers" and thumbed through them. One of them was gay newspaper and there was a very prominent ad for a cafe in Spearville. And not just your run of the mill ad, it was specific to that paper's readership.
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Old 08-29-2006, 03:17 PM
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Yea man, how dare them rainbow people have the audacity to complain about affordable housing, the need for sustainable jobs, education, and a fair shake!
OH my bad. Is that what they were in Meade for? Robin hood was a hero to those on the receiving end. In reality he was simply a thief.

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According to the fine upstanding folks from a certain church in Topeka, swinging both ways is a sin. It's hetero only or God's gonna punish soldiers.
Tolerance does swing both ways. Unless this church is out knocking on your door forcing their religion on you don't they also have rights? The right to live the way they believe is right, and the right to raise their kids the way they believe is right? Who are you to judge whats right for them?

I don't agree with what some of them believe but unless they try and change my way of life I say let them live their own lives.

We have a few Mennonite towns in western Kansas. These people have never ever tried to change my views on life. They have always been the most pleasant people to deal with. All they want is to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit. For this reason most have settled in these little communities. Like minded people with like minded neighbors.

Now whats to happen when someone decides they're going to move in to town and open a gay bar and the towns people start to complain? Do we send in the color coalition or the Dyke's from hell to open a can of whip-ass on these narrow minded buffoons? How dare them want to keep their town clean or raise their kids without sinful influences. Like it or not they do have the right to think being gay is a sin. We've not yet learned to regulate what people can think.

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Old 08-29-2006, 04:29 PM
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Heyyyyy - It's bull dyke and WHOOP ass (first is for real, second one is a WWF dream up)

Good Lord - it's afigure of speach. No one OWNS a town. Certainly the influx of "vistors" to your own Dodge City has proven that to you. If you don't believe me ask Mel Gibson if he thinks he "owns Malibu" any more.

They need to make room like the rest of us. Pretty soon there will be town only for blonde haired blue eyed folks that are mennonite.......... I haven't heard or read anyone proclaiming to be gay............ again this whole thing is blown out of proportion and it's all over a stupid rainbow flag that could mean many different things............ geesh My Little Pony that girls play with have rainbows on them..... there is even a rainbow pony........... hmmmm wonder if that means all little girls that have one of those are gay?????

This whole thing is gettin dumb!
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Tolerance does swing both ways. Unless this church is out knocking on your door forcing their religion on you don't they also have rights? The right to live the way they believe is right, and the right to raise their kids the way they believe is right? Who are you to judge whats right for them?.
Me thinks you need to stick to binary things as reading comprehension may not a strong point for you. tell me where I said they didn't have rights. I even partially agreed with you.

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Now whats to happen when someone decides they're going to move in to town and open a gay bar and the towns people start to complain?
Are you saying a straight bar where rougue Mennonites might try and pick up a willing member of the opposite sex for the night is OK? That's what zoning is for. There's a place in PA you might be interested in, it's a strip joint that features amish ladies who left their community.
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