What will happen tomorrow?

[wordsmythe]

If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention.

Keep your head in the sand. That's easiest for you.

[Army_of_One]

Outrage? I watched about 15 minutes of a John Fn' Kerry speech last night then I finally had to turn it off before I either threw a brick through my t.v. or puked...or both. This guy was unreal... He was talking about all the things that need to be fixed but with no plan. Well....I take that back...the one of the main things he bitched about was Bushes tax cuts. I guess that means he and his party want to raise taxes. He talked about sitting down with Iran and Syria and working things out........The Iranian president is a NUT CASE and he wants to reason with him. You cannot reason with a nut job. I wonder if Kerry and the Dems would have reasoned with Hitler as he burned the Jews (Irans pres deny's this). Hmmmm. He talked about a GLOBAL force...hint..U.N. CONTROLLED.

[lurker]

He talked about sitting down with Iran and Syria and working things out........The Iranian president is a NUT CASE and he wants to reason with him. You cannot reason with a nut job. I wonder if Kerry and the Dems would have reasoned with ...

It would be a meeting of the mental midgets. Maybe wierdly could provide the platform.

[TexKan]

Well none of ya'll have said IF you think anything will go on or if you think it will be another day of rememberance. So - back to Tee's question........ does anyone think anything will be different - other than our daily "loss of innocence" lives? I'm thinkin probably (hopefully) nothing here - I think secruity will be too tight - but what about other places. I hear they are going to target Isreal and have told us not to worry with Iraq and Afgahan.... altho they in the next breath say to step up the fight in those 2 places we supposedly need not be concerned with........

[wordsmythe]

Stay that course Army.

The cliff is coming up quickly.

[Highwayman]

At this point UBL is only a figurehead and since his organization is a cell structure it would continue just fine without him. It’s the organization that must be dismantled cell by cell. Without the organization UBL is just an old man on the run. The organization without UBL has themselves a martyr to rally around.

It’s seems to get lost in the constant Bush bashing that we haven’t been attacked at home in five years. And I have no plans to hunker in a bunker today either.


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[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention.

Keep your head in the sand. That's easiest for you.

Yes...Keep your head in the sand....Turn your back. Exactly what Klinton did during his time in the Presidential Palace.


Clinton Has No Clothes
What 9/11 revealed about the ex-president.

On June 25, 1996, a powerful truck bomb exploded outside the Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, tearing the front from the building, blasting a crater 35 feet deep, and killing 19 American soldiers. Hundreds more were injured. When news reached Washington, President Bill Clinton vowed to bring the killers to justice. "The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished," he said angrily. "Let me say again: We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished."

Dick Morris, was hard at work conducting polls to gauge the public's reaction to the bombing. "Whenever there was a crisis, I ordered an immediate poll," Morris recalls. "I was concerned about how Clinton looked in the face of [the attack] and whether people blamed him."

"We tested two alternative defenses to this attack: Peace maker or Toughness," Morris wrote in a memo for the president. . Morris found that the public greatly preferred "Toughness."

So Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a major terrorist attack — the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole — Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism.
Whenever a serious terrorist attack occurred, it seemed Bill Clinton was always busy with something else.[/color]
The First WTC Attack
Clinton had been in office just 38 days when terrorists bombed the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000. The new president's reaction seemed almost disengaged. He warned Americans against "overreacting" and, in an interview on MTV, described the bombing as the work of someone who "did something really stupid."
From the start, Clinton approached the investigation as a law-enforcement issue. In doing so, he effectively cut out some of the government's most important intelligence agencies.
But the Clinton administration stuck with its theory that the bombing was the work of a loose network of terrorists working apart from any government sponsorship..
Khobar Towers
But there is significant evidence to suggest that the White House was even less interested in finding answers than it had been in the World Trade Center case. In the Khobar investigation, the Clinton administration not only failed to follow potentially productive leads but in some instances actively made the investigators' job more difficult.
From the beginning, the administration ran into significant Saudi resistance (the Saudis quickly identified a few low-level suspects and beheaded them, hoping to end the matter there). More than once, Walsh reports, Freeh was frustrated to learn that the president barely mentioned the case in meetings with Saudi leaders.
Freeh — became convinced that the White House didn't really want to push the Saudis for more information, which Freeh believed would confirm strong suspicions of extensive Iranian involvement in the attack. Walsh reports that in September 1998, Freeh, angry and losing hope, took the extraordinary step of secretly asking former president George H. W. Bush to intercede with the Saudi royal family. Acting without Clinton's knowledge, Bush made the request, and the Saudis began to provide new information, which indeed pointed to Iran.
Freeh had become so mistrustful of Clinton that, although he believed he had developed enough evidence to seek indictments against the masterminds behind the attack, not just the front-line suspects, he decided to wait for a new administration." Just before Freeh left office, Walsh reports, he met with new president George W. Bush and gave him a list of suspects in the bombing. In June, attorney general John Ashcroft announced the indictment of 14 suspects: 13 Saudis and one Lebanese.
Both the Khobar investigation and the World Trade Center bombing presented Clinton with daunting challenges. But in neither instance did Clinton press hard for answers and demand action; Berger would not have taken the position he did if the president fully supported a vigorous investigation. In the coming years, Clinton would be faced with clear acts of terrorism carried out by an organization with undeniable state support. But again, busy with other things, he did little.
The Embassies
On August 7, 1998, bombs exploded at U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. More than 200 people were killed, including 12 Americans. The morning of the attacks, Clinton said, "We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . . . We are determined to get answers and justice."
But breaking up individual cells while avoiding larger-scale action probably had the effect of postponing terrorist acts rather than stopping them. Woolsey believes that such an approach was part of what he calls Clinton's "PR-driven" approach to terrorism, an approach that left the fundamental problem unsolved: "Do something to show you're concerned. Launch a few missiles in the desert, bop them on the head, arrest a few people. But just keep kicking the ball down the field."
The Cole
The last act of terrorism during the Clinton administration came on October 12, 2000, when bin Laden operatives bombed the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. Seventeen American sailors were killed, 39 others were wounded, and one of the U.S.'s most sophisticated warships was nearly sunk.
Clinton's reaction to the Cole terrorism was more muted than his response to the previous attacks. While he called the bombing "a despicable and cowardly act" and said, "We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable," he seemed more concerned that the attack might threaten the administration's work in the Middle East (the bombing came at the same time as a new spate of violence between Israelis and Palestinians). "If [the terrorists'] intention was to deter us from our mission of promoting peace and security in the Middle East, they will fail utterly," Clinton said on the morning of the attack.
Clinton had a solid rationale, and would most likely have had solid public support, for strong military action. Yet he did nothing. Perhaps he didn't want to endanger the cherished goal of Middle East peace. Perhaps he didn't want to disrupt the 2000 presidential campaign, then in its last days. Perhaps he didn't know quite what to do. But in the end, the ball was kicked a bit farther down the field.
In early August 1996 Clinton had a long conversation with Dick Morris about his place in history. Morris divided presidents into four categories: first tier, second tier, third tier, and the rest. Twenty-two presidents who presided over uneventful administrations fell into the last category. Just five — Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, and Franklin Roosevelt — made Morris's first tier.
Clinton asked Morris where he stood. "I said that at the moment he was at the top of the unrated category," Morris recalls. Morris says he told the president that one surprising thing about the ratings was that a president's standing had little to do with the performance of the economy during his time in office. "Yeah," Clinton responded, "It has so much to do with whether you get re-elected or not, but history kind of forgets it."
Clinton then asked, "What do I need to do to be first tier?" "I said, 'You can't,'" Morris remembers. "'You have to win a war.'" Clinton then asked what he needed to do to make the second or third tier, and Morris outlined three goals. The first was successful welfare reform. The second was balancing the budget. And the third was an effective battle against terrorism.
But Clinton never began, much less finished, a war on terrorism. Why?
"He had almost an allergy to using people in uniform," Morris explains. "He was terrified of incurring casualties; the lessons of Vietnam were ingrained far too deeply in him.
And that is the key to understanding Bill Clinton's handling of the terrorist threat that grew throughout his two terms in the White House: It just wasn't his thing. Clinton was right when he said history might care little about the prosperity of his era. Now, as he tries to defend his record on terrorism, he appears to sense that he will be judged harshly on an issue that is far more important than the Nasdaq or 401(k) balances. He's right about that, too
This little piece is long but speaks for itself. I would rather have a president of action right or wrong than one of inaction and cowardice. A president worried about his legacy instead of what's best for his country.

Full story: http://www.nationalreview.com/york/y...ue112901.shtml

[Army_of_One]

Yes...this is the kind of guy I want running my country..Hillary will be worse. Had John Kerry been elected president maybe he could have sat down and negotiated with Bin Laden....or go the all powerful U.N. involved. These people cannot take a crap without taking a poll. They put their interests in front of the Country. Bush attacked Afgahnistan and Al queda post 9/11...not because of a poll because of what needed to be done..what should have been done years before. SOMEONE had to have the balls to do it regardless of a legacy or a poll.

[Made in the USA]

Well, I had a great rant going, but it wiped out, so to summarize---

We have met the enemy, and the enemy is US-----

[lurker]

I didn't hear a single mike moore soundbite all day... must be no money in it for him....