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Old 10-06-2006, 07:22 AM
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Pelosi says she would drain GOP 'swamp' - Yahoo! News

I just love how instead of saying..."RAISE taxes" they say..."ROLL Back the Bush tax cuts...Talk about a play on words. Sheesh. Say what you mean and don't talk out the side of your mouth.

Increase the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour? WHY? So prices of everything go up? This just makes things more difficult for business owners. It nets more taxes for the city/state and fed gov't though.

She would also love to cut and run in Iraq...God help us all. This is a good reason to get out and vote Republican!
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:33 AM
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I just love how instead of saying..."RAISE taxes" they say..."ROLL Back the Bush tax cuts...Talk about a play on words. Sheesh. Say what you mean and don't talk out the side of your mouth.

Increase the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour? WHY? So prices of everything go up? This just makes things more difficult for business owners. It nets more taxes for the city/state and fed gov't though.

She would also love to cut and run in Iraq...God help us all. This is a good reason to get out and vote Republican!
It's a better reason for you to:

1.Learn about macro economics, money supply, and I doubt you need to worry about the top income bracket moving back to 30+%

2. get a job in the private sector and try to make it on the current min wage

3.admit this this administration has FUBAR'd Iraq to the nth degree. Not that I personally agree with cutting and running a good argument could be made that it wouldn't matter.
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:58 AM
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Pelosi says she would drain GOP 'swamp' - Yahoo! News

I just love how instead of saying..."RAISE taxes" they say..."ROLL Back the Bush tax cuts...Talk about a play on words. Sheesh. Say what you mean and don't talk out the side of your mouth.

Increase the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour? WHY? So prices of everything go up? This just makes things more difficult for business owners. It nets more taxes for the city/state and fed gov't though.

She would also love to cut and run in Iraq...God help us all. This is a good reason to get out and vote Republican!

Putting things back the way they were when the worked isn't raising anything. It's just correcting a mistake.

Last time the Min wage went up in 1997 all the same snivelling came up about higher prices blah blah blah... NONE of it happened.

What did happen?

Well Employee retention went up so, productivity went up and everyone won on the end. Employees didn't have to work as many jobs to live so they were happier doing what they were doing.

Oh but SINCE that time Congress voted 9 payraises for its members...
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Old 10-06-2006, 11:07 AM
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It's a better reason for you to:

1.Learn about macro economics, money supply, and I doubt you need to worry about the top income bracket moving back to 30+%

2. get a job in the private sector and try to make it on the current min wage

3.admit this this administration has FUBAR'd Iraq to the nth degree. Not that I personally agree with cutting and running a good argument could be made that it wouldn't matter.
I'm not in the 30% bracket yet....but working on it...lol.

Just because someone has a job in the private sector doesn't mean they have to be paid the minimum wage. Right now most jobs get filled at the minimum wage. When people stop working for that wage then maybe it needs to go up. MOST minimum wage jobs are unskilled labor and should be paid as such. And yes Wordy, prices DO go up on items when the minimum wage increases.

"THIS ADMINISTRATION" has made mistakes in Iraq..it is expected. No one could predict the things that are happening now in Iraq. If they could they would be working in a shop in New Orleans reading futures. Mistakes have been made..of course...could things have been done better...of course but at least "THIS ADMINISTRATION" has the balls to confront terror instead of turning their back on the attacks that have happened in the past. (see prior adminstration) because they were afraid of how it would affect their legacy....I guess you expected a perfect war in Iraq. What would YOU have done differently? What would you do NOW? It's easy to be critical but offer a solution. Would you pull out? Add troops? What?
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Old 10-06-2006, 11:31 AM
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What would YOU have done differently? What would you do NOW? It's easy to be critical but offer a solution. Would you pull out? Add troops? What?
I've answered that one before. Stop asking the same question over and over hoping to get an answer you want and ignoring the rest.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:28 PM
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It's a better reason for you to:

1.Learn about macro economics, money supply, and I doubt you need to worry about the top income bracket moving back to 30+%

2. get a job in the private sector and try to make it on the current min wage

3.admit this this administration has FUBAR'd Iraq to the nth degree. Not that I personally agree with cutting and running a good argument could be made that it wouldn't matter.
1. Wow, talk about a smug, elitist attitude. Because someone's in the military, they'll never be able to be financially successful. I happen to know a lot of former servicemen who are in the top tax brackets. I'm guessing Outofdodge doesn't fit in either category.

I believe there are few things more honorable than serving our country. We would not be who we are today without the men and women, who throughout our history, have put their country above themselves and, when necessary, made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

2. If you're REALLY concerned about wages in our country, you'll support getting the illegal worker problem resolved. The underpaid, undocumented workforce does more to keep wages low than any other factor. These workers aren't covered by the minimum wage, and keep wages for legal unskilled labor lower than they should be in a free market.

3. Do I like the way things are going in Iraq? No, but things seldom go perfectly in military actions.

I really didn't like the way things went on September 11, 2001. If you'll think back, we heard a lot about how the attacks would keep coming. They haven't. We did what Bin Laden and the jihadists thought we wouldn't do... we fought back. Do you recall the dire predictions of many "experts"... 100,000 body bags for American servicemen if we move into Baghdad. While I don't downplay the losses we have had, it certainly hasn't been the bloodbath many on the left predicted.
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.....3. Do I like the way things are going in Iraq? No, but things seldom go perfectly in military actions.

I really didn't like the way things went on September 11, 2001....

What does one have to do with the other????

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11/01. Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden.
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:01 PM
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1. Wow, talk about a smug, elitist attitude. Because someone's in the military, they'll never be able to be financially successful. I happen to know a lot of former servicemen who are in the top tax brackets..
I assume Demon '84 means DCHS 1984. Maybe AOO is right about one thing,. AOO says the schools in dodge suck. If your reading comprehension skills are represented by this response then it would obviously be true.

Or perhaps I misjudge and you can point out where I said they would never be able to financially successful? AOO is an NCO, ever research the crappy pay they get?

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I'm guessing Outofdodge doesn't fit in either category.
If you mean the service, true. In the drawdown post Vietnam my eyesight was considered unacceptable. I was told that during my Annapolis physical. If you mean Financially successful, who gives a rat's behind what I make? My bills are paid, my daughter is through college, I have savings and don't live pay check to pay check and accrording to the IRS I make more than most but less than many Regardless I am fairly certain I have a better handle on economics than you do, it that makes me smug or elitist, bfd.

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believe there are few things more honorable than serving our country..
And I have posted otherwise? There's a whole bunch of people not in the armed services who serve their community, city, county, state, country, etc.

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You mean like the two relatives I helped bury last month?

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2. If you're REALLY concerned about wages in our country, you'll support getting the illegal worker problem resolved. The underpaid, undocumented workforce does more to keep wages low than any other factor. These workers aren't covered by the minimum wage, and keep wages for legal unskilled labor lower than they should be in a free market.
Spouting the same old wive's tales eh? Yes there are undocumented workers making sub-minimum wage but if you really think that is driving wages down, then you need to do some research. Start with wage and hour laws and work from there. They have libraries to assist with that should you not know what that is. Oh excuse me, i read your vast number of old posts and your effective interpersonal interaction and you know what a google is. Use it.

Otherwise get back to me when you've had to be repsonsible for several hundred people, had to assure off site executive leadership that you can turn things around without throwing people off the payroll knowing damn well that to do that is going to make people think you're a jerk all the while you've put your reputation, career and wealth on the line in their defense. And let me know when you know the euphoria of making a business plan which results in growth for employees wages and better yet, additional employees. Then eight months later you get fired by using what you did to save jobs as an excuse.

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3. Do I like the way things are going in Iraq? No, but things seldom go perfectly in military actions.
How profound

Unlike AOO, you;re not on active duty so tell me why it's a good thing that after the major military action was done the infrastructure design was neglected, policy wonks instead of professionals were entrusted to do the job, and our valued soldiers were left exposed without the proper body armor, support, and other tools.

Tell me why it's a good thing that Iraq has consumed so much that Afghansitan-Thats the middle east country that provided overt support to the party responsible for 9/11 is facing fresh Taliban resistance AND our soldiers are operating under the NATO umbrella answering to a British General? Did they find Bin Laden in Iraq? Heck did they find Bin Laden anywhere?

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If you'll think back, we heard a lot about how the attacks would keep coming..
If you could think then you could research the current state of readiness in this country. It;s the administrations own inspector generals in some cases exposing the lack of prepardness.

Bubba has pointed further the error of your ways. Bottom line Army of One's economic theories, politics, and college football picks suck but otherwise he;s a decent sort. Hell anyone who's spent 18 years in Uncle Sam's Army standing near howitzers is bound to have a little long term thought damage.

You on the other hand appear to be an insufferable prick. You may be entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. I suggest you put me in your ignore list.
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.....If you could think then you could research the current state of readiness in this country. It;s the administrations own inspector generals in some cases exposing the lack of unprepardness.....
You sound a little wound up tonight OoD. Did that really come out the way you intended it?
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You sound a little wound up tonight OoD. Did that really come out the way you intended it?

thanks for pointing it out, yea i'm wound a little tonight. I'll get over it.
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