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Old 11-08-2006, 09:03 AM
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On the bright side all spending must originate in the House and so the Democrats now have control of the purse strings. That means that all problems with spending and deficits will now be the responsibility of the Dems and we will have two years to blame them for government overspending.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:07 AM
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:21 AM
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...I took time and let them see where the pieces would fall and I shut up about it for a while ...
When was that?


Look, I am just saying... It ought to be about the country, not the party. It's not and it hasn't been for a long time. If you'll review my posts you'll see that I have blamed the Reps for the same partisan stuff. It's my opinion that we will now be overwhelmed and consumed playing the get-em-back game instead of trying to tackle terrorism, immigration, oil prices, etc. I'm not into that, whether it be dems or reps. The Dems have even said they are going to conduct many investigations if they get in power, and they have even hinted at impeachment. Obviously they are still sore about what happened to Bill. You really think their threats of pulling funding for Iraq is for the coutry's benefit? This is nothing more than an attempt to disarm the president and the will of the people, 85% of which were for going into Iraq. You can blame you own side for this, Carville and the rest of them-they are the ones that said it.

I said it once and I will say it again. We will be inandated with investigations and manuevers to thwart the president at every turn. Much of our time in the house will be consumed by political manuevering, not on what is important to the people of the nation. Dire predictions aside...surely you know this will happen...?

If you don't think this will happen just say so and I will be sure and remind you that I was right and you were wrong, when it does happen.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:38 AM
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When was that?
I’d guess that would have been back in 2000 and before any of the Dodge forums. We just missed it.

With sharing the power comes sharing the responsibility and therefore the glory and/or blame. I’m confident that the government will overspend and now the Dems can’t blame it on someone else. The sweetness of victory quickly slips away with the realization that your feet will soon be held to the fire.
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I think it's time for the right to step-up and do what the left couldn't. We need to put aside our difference and work toward a better America be it led by democrats or republicans. There has been such a bitter fight between the tics that America is pulling itself apart.

Give the democrats a chance to prove themselves with all the support they didn't give the republicans. Fact is we all are winners in the end if it works.
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Nancy Pelosi made a nice warm fuzzy speech this morning. Let’s watch and see if she follows up or not. Consider that her base is the far left in San Francisco, if she compromises too much she risks angering her base and loosing the next election. If she takes a far left stance she risks her party’s chances in the next election. She can talk the talk but can she walk the walk?
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:25 PM
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I'm not the happiest about the election either but we all are so good at saying....... think defeat - and defeat will come.

I say lets see what happens and remain cautiously optimistic which is more courtesy then was shown to others. I say.... do the right thing........ wait and see
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I agree with Nurse Texie. Let's let the body politic start to heal naturally and belay any harsh decision to start hacking out tumors that may or may not be there. Sen-elect Joe Lieberman said the election was about the mainstream over the extreme. Run Joe Run.
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Nov 8, 2:06 PM (ET)

By LAURIE KELLMAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Exultant House Democrats plotted their return to power with a "new direction" for the country on the Iraq war and new scrutiny of the Bush administration. They scored an early victory Wednesday when Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld resigned despite President Bush's flat refusal to fire him.

The announcement came just hours after Democrats reclaimed the House after a dozen years in exile and immediately demanded Rumsfeld's ouster.

Speaker-in-waiting Nancy Pelosi did not mention Rumsfeld's name but called for Bush to "change the civilian leadership of the Pentagon."

"That would signal an openness to new fresh ideas on the subject," she told reporters, adding that she would discuss the matter with Bush at a lunch on Thursday.

Said newly re-elected Sen. Joseph Lieberman, suggesting how Bush might dismiss his defense secretary: "Thanks Don, you've served the country but really we need somebody new there."

Bush, it turns out, did not need to urge Rumsfeld to resign. He said at a news conference Wednesday that he and his Pentagon chief agreed that the time was ripe for new military leadership.

"Sometimes it's necessary to have a new perspective," Bush announced, essentially agreeing with Democrats who had said Rumsfeld, the architect of the Iraq war, had to go.

Rumsfeld's resignation amounts to a volley of good faith from Bush to newly empowered Democrats and a strong start for what Pelosi had vowed would be a "new direction" for the country under a divided government.

Still, partisan unpleasantness loomed both between political opponents and within the Democratic caucus. Besides conflict over Iraq, Democrats promised new scrutiny of the Bush administration and a top-to-bottom cleaning of Congress, an institution that has been plagued by scandal and bitterness in recent years.

"We certainly have a mandate for making this place more honest making it operate in a more civilized way," Rep. Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday, on the morning after voters made all but certain she would become the House's first "Madame Speaker" and hours after she and Bush pledged to work together.

In the first 100 hours of the new Congress convening in January, Pelosi also aims to raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, put into effect the anti-terror recommendations of the 9/11 Commission and allow Medicare to compete for cheaper drug prices.

But Iraq fueled the impending conflicts both within Democratic caucus and beyond.

Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a veteran who came out against the war, said in an interview with The Associated Press that he "absolutely" would challenge Minority Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland for the schedule-setting majority leader's post.

The power shift in Tuesday's midterm elections sharply changes the relationship between Bush and Congress on a variety of fronts, from the war in Iraq to his warrantless domestic surveillance of suspected terrorists.

The midterm balloting also served pretty much as the kickoff point for the 2008 election cycle, notwithstanding a general public that was no doubt weary over nonstop negative campaign ads.

Democrats already had plans to use their committee gavels and platforms to audition for even more seats in 2008, including the one in the Oval Office. For Bush, the next two years will be about sealing his legacy. The confluence of political agendas could give the two sides reason to compromise on select legislation, such as overhauling the nation's immigration laws.

But inaction seemed inevitable on policies that do not serve the political interests of both sides, certainly if the morning-after pledges of good faith evaporate.

Wednesday was for celebrating among Democrats. Besides winning control of the House, the party was assured of at least 50 seats in the Senate and was leading in Virginia's tight Senate race as well.

Even as she vowed to throw an intense spotlight on the administration's wartime policies, Pelosi pivoted to a conciliatory tone.

"The campaign is over. Democrats are ready to lead. We are prepared to govern," she said. "We will do so working together with the administration and the Republicans in Congress in partnership, not in partisanship."

Besides calling Pelosi and House Democratic campaign chief Rahm Emanuel, Bush also placed morale-boosting calls to Republicans ousted from control, thanking Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois, Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio and Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri and others for running strong races around the country.

The message: "That we fought hard, we have some tough losses, but that we're going to work together as we move forward," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

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Associated Press Writer Kim Hefling contributed to this report.
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:24 AM
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The republican party is diffidently in trouble and the rats are abandoning ship leaving the caption(Bush) to go down with the ship alone. I think it's sad to watch these countries "switch directions" to support the new leaders.

The same people that just last week were cheering America on for leading the war on terror are now poking fun at Bush and calling him names. It reminds me of that little coward you see in the movies that switches allegiance depending on who's in charge.
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