Hillary takes a stand...

[TexKan]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

Not to mention their profit margin is less than that of some of the larger banking giants....BUT you don't see Hillary going after them and their "excess profits"...you don't hear anyone screaming about how major banks make billions off the backs of the little guy....I believe she doesn't go after their "excess profits" because she gets MUCH support from the banking industry, check out who puts money in her pocket.

Hillary Clinton: Campaign Finance/Money - Contributions - Senate 2006

Lawyers and Banks/Securities alone account for about 70% of her total contributions. Not only do they account for a majority of her money but she is #1 in donations from these industries.

Yeah but she is from New York where most of the banking headquarters are. You don't think that accounts for some of those donations?? Maybe she feels that the banking industry gives back to america with loans and such - the oil companies don't really do that........ I don't know why she picks one industry over another - perhaps the same reason Bush was so nice to oil companines and his cronies companies all together......... not biting the hand that feeds you is not such a new concept - I believe they all follow that rule. Not just her.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by TexKan

She is usually pretty soft spoken -
During her speech about Exxon and such she came across as radical - the first time I saw that was whenshe was talkin about the war - her infamous - "if this congress can't end the war - if I'm elected I'll end it in 2009" The way she delivered that just wasn't right with me. What can she possibley do to end it other than cut and run??? That's not facing the challanges as I think we should. I don't know the solution but cuttin and runnin isn't an option with me.

So AOO - my opinions are flexable - but they do form how I view someone and how I vote when the time comes.

Actually she is NOT soft spoken...check some her old speeches....she likes to get fired up. She's TRYING the softer side so she can get elected. If you haven't figured it out by now Hillary and every other Democrat is for cutting and running from Iraq, some faster than others which will leave the country in worse shape than it is now and brand the U.S. losers, give the terrorist wind but would be a victory for the Dems and a loss for Bush. Do you think the Dems want us to be successful in Iraq?

[TexKan]

I like to think that anyone thinks first of the troops then of the politics. I realize that dems don't want to own this war but I still find it hard to believe that ANY politician would sell our own soldiers out just to lose a war. It's not who Americans are............. don't go callin me naieve............ I just am comfortable in my own beliefs....... right or wrong......... it's what makes me comfy.........LOL

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by TexKan

Yeah but she is from New York where most of the banking headquarters are. You don't think that accounts for some of those donations?? Maybe she feels that the banking industry gives back to america with loans and such - the oil companies don't really do that........ I don't know why she picks one industry over another - perhaps the same reason Bush was so nice to oil companines and his cronies companies all together......... not biting the hand that feeds you is not such a new concept - I believe they all follow that rule. Not just her.

Well no doubt a lot of banks HQ in New York so geographically that is where her support comes from but there is a reason for that. "she feels that the banking industry gives back to America with loans and such.." You are kidding...right? Banking is a business. They are NOT giving away anything.(not even that shiny toaster) When was the last time a bank GAVE something to someone. You apply for a loan and if you qualify they charge you for that loan. Again...what do banks give? They sell a service. Can you elaborate on that for me please so I can understand how a bank gives to America?

[TexKan]

It's like investing into "America"........ they re invest into America........ look at all the Federal loans for Immagrants........ come on - I don't need to spell the banking industry out to you. They make money - granted but they don't post profits like the oil industry!! I'm just sayin that banks probably do bankroll her and I can see why.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by TexKan

I don't need to spell the banking industry out to you. They make money - granted but they don't post profits like the oil industry!!.

Actually maybe you do need to spell it out to me because I am now confused. You say they don't posts the profits of the oil companies and in that sense you are right. Their profit margin is almost double that of the oil companies. The reason the numbers in the oil are so big is because of volume but again the banking and pharmaceutical companies post larger profit margins than the oil companies....What you are saying conflicts with what I am reading. What are your sources?


Most financial institutions, such as commercial banks, are routinely more profitable than Exxon Mobil was in its third quarter. For example, Exxon Mobil's gross margin of 9.8 cents of profit for every dollar of revenue pales in comparison to Citigroup Inc.'s 15.7 cents in 2004. By percentage of total revenue, banking is consistently the most profitable industry in America, followed closely by the drug industry.

Altria Group, the maker of Marlboro and other cigarettes, made 22 cents for every dollar of revenue in 2004, and pharmaceutical company Merck made 25.3 cents for every dollar of revenue in 2004.

Oil Industry Seeks to Cast Huge Profits as No Big Deal

...you were saying about the banking industry not posting what kind of profits???

[TexKan]

The banking industry gives back to the commuity - I don't see oil companies floatin loans to folks lookin for that first house/............ I don't have sources............. I only know what i believe and what I hear - like many voters - we don't all spend out days reading profit margin articles nor do we want to. So the liberal media has informed me I guess........ good lord!

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by TexKan

The banking industry gives back to the commuity - I don't see oil companies floatin loans to folks lookin for that first house/............ I don't have sources!

Again I ask you how does the banking industry gives back to the community? Please don't say "floatin loans..." because "floatin" loans is not giving to the community. It is a business and they make money from lending money. A lot of banks charge you fee's for everything you do and some charge you fee's if you don't do anything.

Perhaps this would be a good place for one of your trade mark signs....lol.

[K C Muffin]

Army - do you have a burr up your butt? Or does politics just generally turn you on? I kinda work like Texie myself - I consider myself an upwardly-mobile professional, but I don't sweat the small sh_t this far before an election. I let the media do that for me. I figure they'll force out any candidate that I wouldn't agree with. Now, when it gets down to nut-cuttin' time, that's when I go into study mode. I look at the candidate's history, listen to speeches, read articles, etc., etc., etc. But right now, things are simply being said/done to engage the media hype. I think they must feel that if people hear a name often enough, they'll vote that way.

[TexKan]

I just think that banks have an investment in the community in which they exsist. That is a fact. The most I see an oil company doin is reinvesting in itself. Banks loan money to make money that's true but they also administer low interest loans for first time home owners. Oil comapnies post enourmous profits and reinvest into how to get more oil and keep you from alternative energy - that's how I see it - I don't need to ask anyones' permission if that's correct - that'st how I see it. I like banks better than I do oil companies. You like oil companies better than banks............. and I would say YEAH THAT seems to be the case.

and what's wrong with my Yeah That........... I've given a few to you in the past so quit bitchen! Ya old grump! ( I'll throw that in to let ya know how serious I am bout disecting politics with anyone!)