Illegal Credit Cards

[Outofdodge]

Originally Posted by Captain Kemical

They damn sure have lost my account as soon as I set up a new one and get all my auto payments moved over to the new account.

BOA is not in Indiana which is too bad. They were the easiest and most error free banking relationship I ever had.

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Outofdodge

BOA is not in Indiana which is too bad. They were the easiest and most error free banking relationship I ever had.

Dont have a branch here close to me either so everything is direct deposit and online..
I do love their services.... like the I D theft I had last month....they were on it and took care of it right away....
Its really a conundrum...
If all other banks are going to do this ...and more than likely ....they will...
Cause its all about profits....then I may as well stay...will just have to see what the feds have to say......if they say

[Detector]

Cause its all about profits

Sadly true. Any more it seems Americans only care about the bottom line. Not all Americans, but the ones with the power to make a difference. Thats probably why they have the power to make a difference.

The whole illegal immigration issue is about money.

What will probably happen is people will see the chance to make money off of BOA stock and while publicly shaking a finger at them they will buy the stock supporting their move. This in turn will prompt the other banks to play follow the leader.

I've come to the realization that there is little that can be done about illegal immigration by the common man. Americans know the illegals come here because America will bend the rules for the sake of the bottom line. If there were no jobs for illegals, if the schools didn't except illegals, if local business didn't cater to illegals and if America wasn't so willing to make life easy for illegals, they wouldn't be here in such great numbers.

America is sending a mixed message and as long as the money makers of America continue to encourage them to come, they will come.

America was outraged at the idea of an open boarder suggested by some ignorant politicians, but when you offer jobs to illegals, offer schooling to illegals, hand out drivers licenses and credit cards to illegals you have an open boarder. America has managed to slip their open boarder policy past those who opposed it. Why? because they can and get away with it.

We have expanded the Cuban policy to all people from the south. If you can get here you can stay here.

Whats sad is this open immigration policy doesn't seem to apply to all immigrants, only Hispanics. I met a German lady the other day that has been here for 15 years illegally. She has several kids born in America but do not qualify as Americans like Hispanics born here. She can't get a job and has to home school her kids. Her husband of 7 years, an American, says he has tried to get their kids in school using the idea they were born in America they are Americans. He says they were told in her case it doesn't apply. He says they were told if they were Hispanic there are avenues they could pursue.

As far as OoD I see no problem with a good heated debate. He is entitled to his opinion as I am mine.

[TexKan]

I have never heard of such immigration policy - that doesn't sound right - what did she say was the issue? Her children are American born? It sounds like she wanted a dual citizenship for them - perhaps. I know dula citiezenship is different - it's more of a problem -

You don't need to be an American citiezen to go to school tho. You need a shot record - that's the last I heard and hear everyday. No birth certificate required. For most govt programs askin residency status is illegal itself.

That's very interestin Detecotr - please expand on her situation.

[Army_of_One]

[quote=Detector;34118] Any more it seems Americans only care about the bottom line. [quote]

Welcome to Capitalism. I understand that there are also ethical considerations when running a business BUT the bottom line IS the bottom line. In the earlier years it was railroads and industry being crooked and taking advantage of workers until the unions stepped in. Now it's Banking and Finance but they are not breaking any laws. Do you blame THEM or do you blame the GOV'T for allowing it to happen?

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Detector

I do, however have a problem with businesses that sell out America for the almighty $$..

BOA doesn't bring the illegals here, they are just following the law and making $$ off of them. Would you consider Walmart selling out America? They buy a LOT of things from China. I believe a lot of our American companies sell parts and technologies that go to enemies of the U.S. all to make $$. What about excell and national hiring illegals, are they selling out America by hiring them? Business has always been about $ and will always be about making $. (until hillary gets elected then she will take the excess profits)

[Detector]

TexKan I believe it's that her kids do not qualify for the assistance that the Hispanics do. I believe it's more that there are a lot of Hispanic organizations in place to aid in jumping through the hoops. My guess is she could get the same assistance if she had help around the red tape. You know that pesky being legal red tape.

By selling out America I refer to those who not necessarily break the law but help or encourage those that do. Putting up signs in Spanish is not illegal and I'm sure it's good business, but it only encourages immigrants to not assimilate in to Americans. Immigrants willing to become Americans make America what it is.

America is made up of Americans who were at one point immigrants not immigrants with no desire to become Americans and chose to remain immigrants. The cure is simple on paper don't give them a reason to remain immigrants, but as long as businesses continue selling out America for a price the cure is out of reach.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Detector

By selling out America I refer to those who not necessarily break the law but help or encourage those that do. Putting up signs in Spanish is not illegal and I'm sure it's good business, but it only encourages immigrants to not assimilate in to Americans. Immigrants willing to become Americans make America what it is.

I agree with you on the level of I think it is wrong. I get bent when I look around and everything is printed in English and Spanish because it discourages assimilation. Just like when I walk into BOA I have to make an effort to find the flyers printed in English. I don't like it and disagree with it BUT from the business stand point they are on point because it's all about making money. Just like in Dodge, if you own a business and aren't advertising and trying to pitch to the Hispanic market you are losing 50% or more of potential business....I guess it's kind of a conflict of personal beliefs and ethics vs capitalism.

Originally Posted by Detector34130

America is made up of Americans who were at one point immigrants not immigrants with no desire to become Americans and chose to remain immigrants. The cure is simple on paper don't give them a reason to remain immigrants, but as long as businesses continue selling out America for a price the cure is out of reach.

I agree with you in some aspects. Coming to America is like walking into a bank vault for them (illegals) metaphorically speaking. They come here with their hands out and their pockets empty. They take what we give them. The gov't has made it fairly easy and lucritive (lucritive meaning a better life than what they had) by the policies that they have set and by not enforcing others. If we shut the vault and made it hard for an illegal person here then maybe they would go home......The U.S. Gov't and the average American taxpayer are NOT on the same sheet of music in my opinion. The average Joe is NOT being represented by their gov't on this issue... (unless of course you are in a Union or a Democrat)

[Made in the USA]

I own a business. I have ethics. I will not sell out to make a buck!! My brother, who worked his whole life, could not get any assistance when he was dying of cancer and could not work anymore. Yet, when I took him grocery shopping, it never failed that ILLEGALS were pulling out Food Stamps, etc etc. Just flat PISSES ME OFF!! And Detector---------I agree with you!!

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Made in the USA

I own a business. I have ethics. I will not sell out to make a buck!! My brother, who worked his whole life, could not get any assistance when he was dying of cancer and could not work anymore. Yet, when I took him grocery shopping, it never failed that ILLEGALS were pulling out Food Stamps, etc etc. Just flat PISSES ME OFF!! And Detector---------I agree with you!!

It's good that you wouldn't "sell out" but most people will and do. Do you think Excel cares if they hire illegals? NOPE. Walmart not only sells to the hispanic population (illegals included) they cater to them...(look how they put out all the hispanic stuff in the center isle's on the weekend...They know their is a market and they intend to snatch up some of it.

FWIW when someone pulls out food stamps how do you verfiy their legal status?