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Old 03-20-2007, 07:08 AM
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One thing comes to mind for me.....F^(K 'EM, IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:23 AM
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This is a First Amendment issue already addressed by the SCOTUS back in 1971 in the case of Cohen v. California.

Cohen v. California

This woman signed an agreement not to participate in any "partisan" activities because of her job.

If the sticker said F**K W's War then it would be a violation of th that agreement.

I think we can all agree that, no matter how necessary a war might be, war in and of itself is a horrible thing. So to war I say f**k that.

As far as people "seeing" it and being offended I say f**k them. Getting offended and makinga big deal about it has made more noise than that little bumper sticker ever could on its own.

As I've explained to my daughter, she's 5 and a half and is still figuring things out, words that you hear or read ONLY have the amount of power you give them NOT the power the person saying or writing want them to have.

She knows that there are words that if she says them are given enough power given by people at school that she will get in trouble. So I've told her to use them judiciously and only when needed.

If you aren't willing to take 8 minutes and talk to you kid about words and how you want them to deal with those words they are in for a rude awakening later on. It's like giving a kid a sip of beer once in a while when they are young. As they get older and their friends are fascinated by booze your kid's not impressed because it hold no mystery for them.

Anyway I think the Court case pretty much says it all.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:23 AM
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One thing comes to mind for me.....F^(K 'EM, IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:39 AM
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I agree with you Wordie............ you are giving your child good advice.

Truth is tho the car may wind up being titled to someone else other than her. Altho IF she signed an agreement not to "get political" then she should honor that agreement - if she can't then perhaps she should re evaluate her job. The problem with that is - with the way politics change - I think she could get the politics out of the "agreement". Her politics probably have very little to do with the "research" she does.

It may not be right or wrong........... but the situation is still silly!!
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Is it a personal car, or a State vehicle??
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:02 PM
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Does the employee get paid any milage or expense for personal vehicle usage??
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:04 PM
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She drives it to work, parks it and goes inside from what I can tell.
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This is a First Amendment issue already addressed by the SCOTUS back in 1971 in the case of Cohen v. California.....

.....If the sticker said F**K W's War then it would be a violation of th that agreement....
Your court case isn’t relevant because it applies to a California Penal Code, not Kansas.

Attempting to claim the bumper sticker isn’t partisan because it doesn’t refer to W’s war while we are currently at war is a lame attempt at spin. I suspect there are some Code of Conduct issues with her employer regarding workplace language that might apply also.

Rights or not, this business of pushing the envelope while abusing freedom of speech is the kind of behavior that results in other folks looking for ways to limit our freedoms. Again, would the Gov be so supportive of this free speech if the sticker said “#### Mexicans” or “#### Blacks”? I think not.
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Old 03-20-2007, 02:35 PM
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Your court case isn’t relevant because it applies to a California Penal Code, not Kansas.
I won't argue your opinion on the rest but anything decided by the SCOTUS becomes the law throught the country. The case began in CA but as soon as this opinion was rendered it was rendered for all.
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