Why NOT under oath?

[K C Muffin]

spelling's still pretty good, though.....

[SGT T.]

wel its stil erly.

[booger]

Why should they testify under oath? Seeing what THEY did not Libby, even a ham sandwhich can be convicted. It all depends what the meaning of is, is. If you know what I mean.

[TigerEyes]

Originally Posted by booger

It all depends what the meaning of is, is. If you know what I mean.

The meaning of "is"... hmmm... makes a girl think fondly of things like cigars.

Which brings me to a question - is rationalization or qualification a more important quality to have, either as a person or as a politician?

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

There you go Sarge I knew you had that good Resheeplican in you. Yes Bill lied about getting head. That was quite a few years ago and has nothing to do with the current discussion.

Dumbya is the president and as such he works for us whether we like it or not. As such he needs to listen to the bosses and stop playing his partisan games (isn't that what you sheeple are calling it?) and just have his "advisers" give thier good honest testimony. Under oath and on the record so they can prove they didn't do anything wrong and we can put this all behind us.

OH and find that 8 days of missing e-mails that should have been part of all the documents they already gave while saying it was complete.

Once they all do that they prove to Congress that nothing shady happened.

Partisan games are what the Democrats are playing with this. There is yet no evidence of wrongdoing and claiming that folks need to prove they didn’t do anything wrong is nothing more than a fishing expedition. I expect this behavior will go on at least until the next election.

Originally Posted by Bubba

....As far as electing the president, in the 2000 election Bush wasn't elected by the popular vote. The people of the U.S. elected Al Gore, it was the electoral college vote that won Bush that office.

That’s the way it’s supposed to work. Without an electoral college Kansas wouldn’t need to bother. Elections would be decided by NYC and LA. The rest of us would be SOL.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

That’s the way it’s supposed to work. Without an electoral college Kansas wouldn’t need to bother. Elections would be decided by NYC and LA. The rest of us would be SOL.

I'm from Kansas and I have voted for every president that ended up winning the election since 1980 except for the 2004 election. So, my vote has counted.

You seem to have a very depressing outlook on life sometimes, glad I don't have that chip on my shoulder.

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

There is yet no evidence of wrongdoing and claiming that folks need to prove they didn’t do anything wrong is nothing more than a fishing expedition. I expect this behavior will go on at least until the next election.

There are questions to be asked and answered. If there was no wrong doing then all they have to do is raise their right hand start the tape and tell the truth and we are done.

[wordsmythe]

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 03/26/2007 | Who is Monica Goodling?

WASHINGTON - Monica Goodling, the Department of Justice official who said Monday that she'll invoke the Fifth Amendment rather than talk to lawmakers, is a frequent figure in department e-mails released so far as part of the congressional investigation into the firings and hirings of U.S. attorneys.


Goodling, 33, is a 1995 graduate Messiah College in Grantham, Pa., an institution that describes itself as "committed to embracing an evangelical spirit."


She received her law degree at Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va. Regent, founded by Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson, says its mission is "to produce Christian leaders who will make a difference, who will change the world."


E-mails show that Goodling was involved in planning the dismissals and in later efforts to limit the negative reaction. As the Justice Department's liaison to the White House, she could shed light on the extent of White House involvement in the dismissals.


Goodling took a leading role in making sure that Tim Griffin, a protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, replaced H.E. "Bud" Cummins as the U.S. attorney in Arkansas. Documents released to Congress include communications between Goodling and Scott Jennings, Rove's deputy.


In an Aug. 18, 2006, e-mail to Kyle Sampson, then Gonzales' chief of staff, Goodling warned of potential political problems with Griffin's appointment and underscored White House interest in getting it done.


"We have a senator prob, so while wh is intent on nominating, scott thinks we may have a confirmation issue," Goodling wrote.


At Jennings' request, documents show, Goodling agreed to meet last summer with two Republican activists from New Mexico who felt that U.S. Attorney David Iglesias wasn't doing enough to pursue allegations of voter fraud by Democrats. Iglesias believes the issue was a key factor in his firing.


In a June 20 e-mail, Jennings asked Goodling to arrange a Justice Department meeting for New Mexico Republican Mickey Barnett, who came to Washington with Paul Rogers, another GOP activist.


"It is sensitive - perhaps you should do it," Jennings suggested.


"Happy to do so," Goodling replied. A copy of her daily planner, which was provided to congressional investigators, shows that she met with the two the next day.


Goodling also appears to have been influential in preventing the ouster of U.S. Attorney Gretchen Shappert in western North Carolina. When Shappert's name appeared on a list of targeted prosecutors in September 2006, Goodling recommended that she be left alone.


"There are plenty of others there to start with," Goodling wrote, "and I don't think she merits being included in that group at this time."


Shappert kept her job.

[wordsmythe]

FBI agent told to keep quiet over attorney firings - Yahoo! News

By Thomas Ferraro
Tue Mar 27, 5:08 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An FBI agent was warned to keep quiet about the dismissal of a U.S. attorney after he told a newspaper her firing would hurt the agency's ongoing investigations and speculated politics was involved, a U.S. Senate panel heard on Tuesday.


FBI Director Robert Mueller defended the handling of the incident, saying: "I do not believe it's appropriate for our special agents in charge to comment to the media on personnel decisions that are made by the Department of Justice."

"I profoundly disagree," replied Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), a California Democrat, who told the panel of the warning to the agent. "He (the agent) was simply saying that it would affect cases that were ongoing. And I think he's entitled to his opinion."

The exchange came as Mueller's testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is ramping up its investigation into the firing last year of eight of the nation's 93 U.S. attorneys.

The Bush administration contends the firings were justified. The mostly Democratic critics of the dismissals question whether the prosecutors were fired for political motives.

The furor has prompted calls for President George W. Bush to fire Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who heads the Justice Department. Bush has rejected such calls, saying he retains confidence in the chief U.S. law enforcement officer.

At a wide-ranging hearing on the FBI, Mueller said he was unaware that any ongoing investigation had been damaged by the dismissals. FBI agents help investigate cases brought by federal prosecutors.

'POLITICS INVOLVED?'

Carol Lam, who helped win the 2005 political corruption conviction of then-U.S. Republican Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California, was among seven prosecutors fired on December 7.

On January 13, the San Diego Union-Tribune quoted Dan Dzwilewski, head of FBI's San Diego office, as saying Lam was crucial to ongoing investigations. "I guarantee politics is involved," he was quoted saying.

Feinstein said her chief counsel had called the FBI's San Diego office to verify the accuracy of the story. She said the office confirmed it was true "but they also said they'd been warned to say no more."

Mueller said he had heard about the article and followed up.

"Well, my understanding is that our chief out there believes he was misquoted (and) ... that our investigations were continuing, without any diminishment," he said.

Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), a New York Democrat, noted that among the shifting reasons given for firing prosecutors was failure to energetically pursue voter-fraud investigations.

Schumer asked Mueller if he was aware of any FBI voter-fraud probe that should have resulted in an indictment but did not.

"Not to my knowledge," the FBI director replied.

[TigerEyes]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

FBI agent told to keep quiet over attorney firings - Yahoo! News

"I profoundly disagree," replied Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), a California Democrat, who told the panel of the warning to the agent. "He (the agent) was simply saying that it would affect cases that were ongoing. And I think he's entitled to his opinion."

Any way to tie this into the bumper sticker flap thread?