MURDER? fRIDAY NIGHT

[pootsy]

Originally Posted by MissKitty

I am sorry that the criminal justice let you down. Unfortunately, sometimes, lots of times, this world sucks and unfair things happen to innocent people. Believe me, I know how it feels. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but it sounds like you have a case against the girl who falsely accused you.

As for what you thought was Sauer bashing, all I said in this thread was "I think it was John Sauer who chose not to prosecute that case." I was just stating what I thought was a fact, trying to correct some misinformation. Sorry you took it wrong.

Thank you for saying not all jailers treated you bad. I know some and they are decent people doing a sucky job, but like all jobs, it just takes one bad one to unfairly give the others a bad name. It's easy for us to see one Mary Kay Letourneau and think all teachers are child moesters. Or that all Mexicans who work at a beef plant are illegal. I think it's human nature to label people. I don't know if this cop is guilty or innocent, but I hope I don't start thinking that all cops are guilty just because they wear a badge.

See Miss Kitty, thank you, I want to say that. I want to say something else which this board may or may not like. Miss Kitty has a good point about labeling people and Alot of LEO are the worst at labeling people because of what others say or what people have done in the past...Sorry but true. But when it comes to one of their own, than boy howdy THEY HAVE CHANGED!

About five years ago I knew something about a LEO that was just hired. He was on the path of getting a divorce to a girl I worked with. I told her what I knew about him because I didn't think it would be cool for her children to be with him. She took this info to the DCPD (John Ball) and let him know what I said. They took me in for questioning and I talked with Craig Mellecker. I told the complete truth. The girl I worked with called John Ball one day and asked him why this guy (after what I told him) was still working for him...guess what he said....Because I am not a credible person for what I said, basically because of my past. My past with drugs would be my guess. Ya know I may have done alot of things in my past but being a LIAR was not one of them.

Sad thing is if John Ball would have listened to me back then, none of this might be happening today. And no I am not saying Chris is the person I was questioned about,but his best friend was. Chris was mentioned as well. John Ball judged me. I was born and raised in DC , and these people came out of nowhere! yes I did some things in the past, but I was never a real bad person. I made mistakes like anyone else. At the time of questioning I was trying to change my life. I was working for Youthville at the time so that should have gave Ball the first clue!

So what I am trying to say is some LEO are just as guilty of giving people a label just as we are. But when it comes to one of their own they are so quick to have their back no matter what.
And as for John Ball....You need to quit being such an ass and quit judging people because of their past.

[sup?]

ELBERT COUNTY – Authorities have learned a man who was arrested after an extensive chase on Friday is a suspect in a homicide investigation in another state.

The suspect has been identified as 33-year-old Christopher Tahah of Dodge City, Kan.

The incident started when the Colorado State Patrol began tracking a black 2004 Hummer H2 via the On Star Tracking system at about 8:55 a.m. The Hummer H2 had been reported stolen.

Troopers say the vehicle was traveling eastbound on I-70 at mile marker 332, just east of Deer Trail.

A Colorado State Patrol trooper first spotted the stolen SUV traveling eastbound on I-70 near mile marker 351, about 11 miles east of Agate.

The trooper waited for assistance and once a Lincoln County Deputy arrived, they made an initial stop at mile marker 352.

Troopers say the SUV came to a stop, but Tahah refused to get out of the stolen vehicle and then fled.

A chase ensued on the eastbound lanes of I-70 and troopers deployed a tire deflator at mile marker 358 which partially disabled the Hummer.

However, Tahah still would not stop and the chase continued.

Authorities deployed a second tire deflator at mile marker 362, just within Lincoln County, however, the Hummer avoided the deflator by driving onto the median and traveling onto the westbound lanes.

Troopers say the SUV came to a complete stop at mile marker 365, but Tahah again refused to get out of the Hummer and then sped off again.

State Patrol says the Hummer continued eastbound on I-70 into Kit Carson County where authorities attempted to use tire deflators two more times, but were unsuccessful in disabling the SUV.

The vehicle exited onto a nearby frontage road and traveled southbound on Kit Carson County Road 10.

Troopers say approximately found miles south of I-70, Tahah jumped out of the Hummer and tried to run away on foot.

Authorities say Tahah was arrested after a short pursuit.

Troopers say Tahah was transported to Kit Carson County jail and charged with first-degree motor vehicle theft, felony eluding and reckless driving.

After investigating, troopers discovered Tahah is a suspect in a homicide investigation being conducted by Dodge City authorities in Kansas.

No injuries resulted from the chase.



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[TexKan]

Well just by that action alone he can kiss his life as he knew it goodbye. Looks like Vinnie needs another band member. Dumb just dumb.

[NoLongerInRadioGuy]

Originally Posted by pootsy

...yes I did some things in the past, but I was never a real bad person. I made mistakes like anyone else. At the time of questioning I was trying to change my life. I was working for Youthville at the time so that should have gave Ball the first clue!

So what I am trying to say is some LEO are just as guilty of giving people a label just as we are. But when it comes to one of their own they are so quick to have their back no matter what.

So, if your story is true, then maybe they had done some things in the past, but was never a real bad person...they made mistakes like anyone else...they were trying to change their lives...they were applying to be police officers, that should have given you the first clue! I am sorry...I dont know your situation first hand, but sure sounds to me like you are saying "trust me even though some of my past is tarnished I have gotten past it, but dont trust them because they are just bad people."

Some LEOs label people...there is a shocker. You do realize, we are not robots, right? We have feelings, opinions, and make decisions every day. If you look at, say, teaching - and you did a survey about labeling - you might get a result that 48.3% of teachers label people. Now, do it for LEOs - probably around 48.3%...and medical care, about 48.3%.....get it?

[TexKan]

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck,quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck. Best way to channge that perception is to not waddle, let your tail feathers grow, and change yer quack to a screech ................... then folks will think your a peacock. Works for some!

I only see ducks 48.3% of the time.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by NoLongerInRadioGuy

So, if your story is true, then maybe they had done some things in the past, but was never a real bad person...they made mistakes like anyone else...they were trying to change their lives...they were applying to be police officers, that should have given you the first clue! I am sorry...I dont know your situation first hand, but sure sounds to me like you are saying "trust me even though some of my past is tarnished I have gotten past it, but dont trust them because they are just bad people."

Some LEOs label people...there is a shocker. You do realize, we are not robots, right? We have feelings, opinions, and make decisions every day. If you look at, say, teaching - and you did a survey about labeling - you might get a result that 48.3% of teachers label people. Now, do it for LEOs - probably around 48.3%...and medical care, about 48.3%.....get it?

Looks like you forgot to quote the most important line in her post! So, by that omission, are you still judging her? Or are you just trying to protect one of your friends?

See your omission below...

Originally Posted by pootsy

....Ya know I may have done alot of things in my past but being a LIAR was not one of them.

Originally Posted by sup?

ELBERT COUNTY – Authorities have learned a man who was arrested after an extensive chase on Friday is a suspect in a homicide investigation in another state.

The suspect has been identified as 33-year-old Christopher Tahah of Dodge City, Kan.

The incident started when the Colorado State Patrol began tracking a black 2004 Hummer H2 via the On Star Tracking system at about 8:55 a.m. The Hummer H2 had been reported stolen.

Troopers say the vehicle was traveling eastbound on I-70 at mile marker 332, just east of Deer Trail.

A Colorado State Patrol trooper first spotted the stolen SUV traveling eastbound on I-70 near mile marker 351, about 11 miles east of Agate.

The trooper waited for assistance and once a Lincoln County Deputy arrived, they made an initial stop at mile marker 352.

Troopers say the SUV came to a stop, but Tahah refused to get out of the stolen vehicle and then fled.

A chase ensued on the eastbound lanes of I-70 and troopers deployed a tire deflator at mile marker 358 which partially disabled the Hummer.

However, Tahah still would not stop and the chase continued.

Authorities deployed a second tire deflator at mile marker 362, just within Lincoln County, however, the Hummer avoided the deflator by driving onto the median and traveling onto the westbound lanes.

Troopers say the SUV came to a complete stop at mile marker 365, but Tahah again refused to get out of the Hummer and then sped off again.

State Patrol says the Hummer continued eastbound on I-70 into Kit Carson County where authorities attempted to use tire deflators two more times, but were unsuccessful in disabling the SUV.

The vehicle exited onto a nearby frontage road and traveled southbound on Kit Carson County Road 10.

Troopers say approximately found miles south of I-70, Tahah jumped out of the Hummer and tried to run away on foot.

Authorities say Tahah was arrested after a short pursuit.

Troopers say Tahah was transported to Kit Carson County jail and charged with first-degree motor vehicle theft, felony eluding and reckless driving.

After investigating, troopers discovered Tahah is a suspect in a homicide investigation being conducted by Dodge City authorities in Kansas.

No injuries resulted from the chase.



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BTW...why has the AskVinnie.net website been closed to the public? Is the band trying to distance themselves from their fugitive band member? Also, why did the Daily Globe just print a story yesterday that there was no new information about the murder? Yet, a new user named sup? posts an article from another state that clearly identifies your brother in blue as being wanted here as a suspect in the homicide investigation, and that he was driving a stolen hummer no less! I am sure that the globe got their information, or lack of information, from the local PD for that story.

Is it still more of the same ole same ole??? The DCPD protecting one of there own even though it appears he is a cold blooded killer!

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by sup?

ELBERT COUNTY – Authorities have learned a man who was arrested after an extensive chase on Friday is a suspect in a homicide investigation in another state.

The suspect has been identified as 33-year-old Christopher Tahah of Dodge City, Kan.

The incident started when the Colorado State Patrol began tracking a black 2004 Hummer H2 via the On Star Tracking system at about 8:55 a.m. The Hummer H2 had been reported stolen.

Troopers say the vehicle was traveling eastbound on I-70 at mile marker 332, just east of Deer Trail.

A Colorado State Patrol trooper first spotted the stolen SUV traveling eastbound on I-70 near mile marker 351, about 11 miles east of Agate.

The trooper waited for assistance and once a Lincoln County Deputy arrived, they made an initial stop at mile marker 352.

Troopers say the SUV came to a stop, but Tahah refused to get out of the stolen vehicle and then fled.

A chase ensued on the eastbound lanes of I-70 and troopers deployed a tire deflator at mile marker 358 which partially disabled the Hummer.

However, Tahah still would not stop and the chase continued.

Authorities deployed a second tire deflator at mile marker 362, just within Lincoln County, however, the Hummer avoided the deflator by driving onto the median and traveling onto the westbound lanes.

Troopers say the SUV came to a complete stop at mile marker 365, but Tahah again refused to get out of the Hummer and then sped off again.

State Patrol says the Hummer continued eastbound on I-70 into Kit Carson County where authorities attempted to use tire deflators two more times, but were unsuccessful in disabling the SUV.

The vehicle exited onto a nearby frontage road and traveled southbound on Kit Carson County Road 10.

Troopers say approximately found miles south of I-70, Tahah jumped out of the Hummer and tried to run away on foot.

Authorities say Tahah was arrested after a short pursuit.

Troopers say Tahah was transported to Kit Carson County jail and charged with first-degree motor vehicle theft, felony eluding and reckless driving.

After investigating, troopers discovered Tahah is a suspect in a homicide investigation being conducted by Dodge City authorities in Kansas.

No injuries resulted from the chase.



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Thank you sup? for posting this article. Our local paper just ran an article yesterday that stated there was no new information in the investigation. Not even the fact that Tahah was a suspect.

By the way, just for your information there, Tahah is/was a police officer in Dodge City.

[Bubba]

This is the link to the source for the article that sup? posted....


http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=69883

[pootsy]

Originally Posted by NoLongerInRadioGuy

So, if your story is true, then maybe they had done some things in the past, but was never a real bad person...they made mistakes like anyone else...they were trying to change their lives...they were applying to be police officers, that should have given you the first clue! I am sorry...I dont know your situation first hand, but sure sounds to me like you are saying "trust me even though some of my past is tarnished I have gotten past it, but dont trust them because they are just bad people."

Some LEOs label people...there is a shocker. You do realize, we are not robots, right? We have feelings, opinions, and make decisions every day. If you look at, say, teaching - and you did a survey about labeling - you might get a result that 48.3% of teachers label people. Now, do it for LEOs - probably around 48.3%...and medical care, about 48.3%.....get it?

Actually what you say is true; however, my good guess is that he was applying at DCPD because everyone knew what was going on at Youthville. There is a big difference here; I was trying to move on with my life and make better decisions; he was there SCREWING up and screwing up kid's heads. BIG DIFFERENCE! Another thing that should have gave John Ball a big clue was me even talking to Craig Mellecker about what I was talking about. Just wasn't my style, unless I had to.

[sup?]

even though i do not know any of the people involved, i am just saddened at this tragedy and that 2 innocent children will grow up without a mother.